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Old 02-19-2013   #11
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Here's a photo of how I typically have it rigged (red bag in front), and I'm not the genius who thought of it. I also make sure to face the buckles towards the end, not the rower, so they'll hopefully be easier to find.


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Old 02-19-2013   #12
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I sewed a harness and attach it to the front biner, but I like your plan better. Although hanging is easier to get to when upside down, it's a bit annoying having it bounce around even the little bit it does.

I am a river, babe - I've got plenty of time, I don't know where I'm going, I'm just following the lines..... - "We are water" by Shaye
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Old 02-19-2013   #13
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I keep mine in a stitches n stuff captains bag right next to me... but I'm in a cat so its still accessible when wrong side up.. just four quick cams snd I take the whole bag... we try and have at least two available in our group incase its on a pinned boat..
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Old 02-19-2013   #14
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The local Army surplus store had everything I needed and was happy to give me a sweet "locals" discount.
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Old 02-20-2013   #15
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Bigger is better

200 ft plus of 3/8 inch climbing rope, 6 big beefy pulleys, 10 locking biners, 10 prussiks (1/4 inch dia), four x 20 ft lengths of tubular webbing. A few 40 ft lengths of climbing rope. AT2 belay device and an ascender. All packed into a large mesh gear bag, readily accessible. Weighs over 50 lbs.

Paid for itself many times over a few years ago when I botched Blossom Bar on the Rogue and pinned my15.5 ft fully framed and loaded Miravia round boat in the picket fence. Raft was pinned beyond belief, with half its mass sucked into the sieve and underwater. We had it out in one hour but it required virtually every piece of equipment in the kit. No damage to the rig at all. My one and only pin.

This kit goes with me on every single trip, no matter how easy.
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Old 02-20-2013   #16
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Typical climbing rope will stretch when under load, static line will not. It's a real pain in the neck when your z drag is all set up and you have to pull and adjust the rigging for awhile to take up the slack due to stretching. Start off using static line and your efforts will be more efficient.
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Old 02-20-2013   #17
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Sterling Rope makes some industry leading ropes for all types of uses from climbing and repelling to tactical rescues. You can order almost any length direct from them (if I recall) and they have a great static collection. If you dig on their website there are some water specific ropes as well.
Please take a look at my Photo Web Gallery.
I also have here some gear reviews (that I might update soon).
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Old 02-25-2013   #18
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We used a Z-drag with and extra pulley this weekend to move a very heavy (~1000 lb) object, and I have to say that the static line was clutch.

Does that third pulley bring you to a 4:1 or a 9:1? We kind of made a W. Whatever it was, it worked out great.
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Old 02-25-2013   #19
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Ratio is set by mechanical advantage. In a 3:1 z drag, the boat moves one foot for every three you pull

Two double pullies will give you a 5:1. At some point rope/pulley friction etc you start to lose some of the advantage. Two people pulling on a z drag plus a third to reset the system usually can unstick a boat
Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it "guaranteed", I will. I got spare time.
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Old 02-25-2013   #20
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