Matt you must not know how to read if you believe that was a digital "bitchslap". If anything that was johnny saying things could have been done differently and maybe the outcome would have changed. He also said he didn''t have a flipline on( at 20K?) and i'm not really sure that eagle scouts counts as river training. i'm actually pretty sure that doesn't cover it because I was an eagle scout at one time and nothing we ever did constituted any kind of river safety training, maybe first aid but that's about it. And johnny, how were you assessing downstream when your upstream of the boat and can't see past it? Somethings not jiving here. Also just because you have run at lot of streches of river doesn't mean you know what you are doing or doing it correctly. Think about taking a guide class for shits and giggles and see what you can learn, might make your river trips that much better. And my parents met before you started rafting, f.y.i. And if my elders were doing things correctly I wouldnt have to talk to them this way
Anyways it was a helpful thread to a few people(johnny) until the mountain hick from carolina joined in with nothing constructive to say. So next time you say digital bitchslap make sure you read the post and actually comment on it.
Matt- Have you ever flipped a gear boat or just watched youtube videos of it? Maybe before you judge difficulty and try to blast others you should do it yourself so you know what your talking about. I have flipped heavy gear boats plenty of times and while it's not fun it's perfectly doable especially if you have practiced your technique and know what your doing. Nice try, but don't try to talk about things you don't know about.
Jvec- sounds like your a douche and you should go to guide school and learn river safety. I went 7 years ago and have been competently rafting rivers since. Thanks though.
Melissa- At least someone on here recognizes what to do in the event of a flip. I have flipped over heavily loaded gear boats and it is not fun but it is doable. Also getting out of the water should be your first concern as you said. It's always easier when you can see down river and your not suffering from hypothermia.