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Old 02-04-2014   #31
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just trying to boat

Well well well I bought a saturn last summer. Its a 9'5" and rocks! so eat my shorts. I had 60+ days on the water last summer and it is holding up great! we"ll see how a few more year wears but for 899$ i think i"ve already got my $ worth. Bottom line this boat got me on the water and i couldn"t be happier about that. If you work for corprate america and have 5k to spend on a boat more power to you. I would question where that money came from rather than where you are spending it though.

ps i love PBR too

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Old 02-10-2014   #32
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hypalon neoprene

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MY understanding is that the EPA won't allow hypalon manufacturing in the US due to the use of toluene in the process. Toluene is a know carcinogen. Use your gloves in a well ventilated area when working with that nasty stuff.
Hypalon is a patented technology for sulfonated neoprene polymer. Hypalon is also a Reg. Trademark. There are many alternatives but good old neoprene wasn't bad. There is a mill in MA that sells a sulphur stabilized neoprene. Urethane encapsulated polyester or nylon is the next best fabric option.

The Chinese will tell you its Hypalon but they have not a clue to the crap they are selling; ditto for their PVC; whadda ya gonna do.... litigate it in CN or just not buy from them.

Hypalon was abandoned for a reason, there is no money in it.

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Old 02-10-2014   #33
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Old 02-10-2014   #34
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Did anyone besides Hyside ever build Hypalon rafts in the U.S.? And plus one for DIB.
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Old 02-10-2014   #35
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I believe Hypalon is still made under alternative trade names. For example, NRS uses Pennell Orca after the Dupont stopped manufacture of Hypalon, and it is the same thing as Hypalon (Chlorosulfonated Polyethylene). To my understanding, Dupont stopped manufacture due to public pressure, not because it was outlawed to manufacture. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

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