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Old 08-24-2016   #41
 
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Although it is quite ridiculous - getting a ticket is always a possible outcome when engaging in "illegal activities". Especially in Mormon central

If there's one thing I can't stand more than religious bigotry its geographic dyslexia. Hells Canyon and the MFS are in Idaho, yo, not Salt Lake City.


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News flash - Idaho is Mormon as fuck

News flash 2 - Mormon is a cult not a religion
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Is it just me, or does this sound like an excuse for a few employees to get a company paid river trip holiday with a few write-ups thrown in for proof of concept? Based on the evident success, should we expect it to be an annual outing?
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Is it just me, or does this sound like an excuse for a few employees to get a company paid river trip holiday with a few write-ups thrown in for proof of concept? Based on the evident success, should we expect it to be an annual outing?
Hope not. Guess it's time to write a letter.

If I were going to complain about how in my opinion this is reduntant inforcement and ridiculous spending of federal dollars, where do I begin to send that message ya think??
Middle Fork FS Ranger?
County Officials?
State Representatives???
Killary???(LOL)
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Old 08-25-2016   #45
 
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We probably need to legalize all drugs anyway. We keep doing the same thing for the last 60 years in the war on drugs and things just keep getting worse. If we want a different outcome, we need to try a new approach.

As far as the fishing license goes, throw the book at them.
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Hells Canyon..are in Idaho, yo
How you figure that? At least 1/2 of it is anyway.
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Old 08-25-2016   #47
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I like multi day trips that are not popular for this reason. I follow rules and don't have any drug contact, but I don't like to be checked or bothered on the river. I rafted the North Fork John Day this spring, and I had no contact with any government officials at all, and we hardly encountered any other rafters. The river isn't my favorite, but I really like the relaxation that it brings.
I hear the Middle Fork is a blast, but the launch ramp sounds like a fucking zoo. I've been down the Grand Canyon, so I know what that entails. I have done the Rogue a few times, and all of my experiences with the government has been good there, but you know they are watching you.
The ramps on the Deschutes can be a pain in the ass for either the overnight trips or day trips. I hate combat launching, it's worse than traffic in my eyes. The one time I did the Owyhee we had no government around and very few boaters near us as well. I hope my next trip is like that. How is the Grande Ronde for government?
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How is the Grande Ronde for government?
It could use a little more if it was focused on education. The place tends to be a mess (fire rings and lots of crap behind the logs).
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It could use a little more if it was focused on education. The place tends to be a mess (fire rings and lots of crap behind the logs).
Having actual river rangers, that seek to educate the public, and protect the resource, is completely reasonable, and a justified use of any permit fees and tax dollars, in my opinion.

Like Learch, I prefer to be left in peace when I am on the river, and not be hassled by anyone. But if a section needs to be patrolled for it's protection, I am more then happy to greet a Ranger that pulls up to my camp, with a smile on my face, answer any reasonable questions about required equipment, show my permit, show a fishing licence if applicable. This is how I believe it should be.
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How you figure that? At least 1/2 of it is anyway.
Bingo! if it weren't for much of the land around being federal, they might be able to get away with it on the Oregon side of Hells
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