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Old 05-22-2013   #31
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Originally Posted by jaffy View Post
From the comments about protecting kids from the big hurts of the world, about putting yourself at risk is fine but not if it also endangers others, that the guy will be a victim of natural selection I'm getting the impression people are seeing that what he's doing is putting someone at risk of serious injury or death, and I'm just not getting that. What's the actual danger here? A bruise? A scrape?

Since some people tend to take offense easily on the internet, I'll say in advance I'm not trying to be dismissive or insulting. I'm not a parent, so maybe my perspective would change if I were.
Flush drowning. Nothing about that abutment looked "keeper-ish" but there still could have been enough of an eddy to take the kiddo down low enough for her to aspirate water.

No offense taken here--I love a great debate.

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Old 05-22-2013   #32
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Ok, this stretch of the Provo is a booze cruise. Bear bridge is the only obstacle to look out for. You can't fault the man for being in a Walmart raft, pretty much everyone else is. He was just unlucky to break his oar at that point. But he probably should have had the cents, to walk around with a small kid and lack of experience anyways.

On the weekends there is 50 to 100 people partying on a island a mile upstream. Makes for quite alot of carnage at the bridge when the twenty tube, tied together floatilla comes around that corner.

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Old 05-22-2013   #33
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Sure looks like ignorance rather than stupidity to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he's floated the thing in inner tubes dozens of times prior to bringing his family on the float "where nothing happens".

I was exposed to far worse situations by far more protective parents than these, and I wasn't breaking any rules. Shit happens in life. If he was back out the following week without learning anything from it I would probably feel differently.
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Old 05-22-2013   #34
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after he lost that "oar" he should've become mobile in the boat to push off that piling...pretty simple common sense, don't have to be an experienced boater to figure that out
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Old 05-23-2013   #35
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Natural selection as a rule will fix stupid eventually.
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Old 05-23-2013   #36
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If you take your kids rent some better equipment.

An extra oar is nice.

Maybe most important is make sure your kids have a life preserver with a crotch strap or two. Something to keep the PFD on for sure.

Helmets for kids isn't a stretch either.
Just the bike helmet would be great.

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