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Old 05-06-2016   #11
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I purchased a NRS e145 6 years ago from a guy on Craigslist in GWS. $4k included all rigging, and a triton trailer. It's over 20 years old now and holds air like a champ.

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Old 05-06-2016   #12
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I agree with others on here. Hypalon lasts forever. We have a 35+ year boat that requires a few pumps every morning but wouldn't think twice about taking it on a 6 days trip.

Take a good look at it and if all looks ok, get it.

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Old 05-06-2016   #13
Vanderwagen, New Mexico
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If you're looking to get on the water May 27th, I would recommend going with the NRS raft with the Down River frame. Both are high quality and paired up to each other. The extra D rings and handles are bonus. If you continue to clean and store properly, the raft has at least another 20 years. Have fun whatever you do! "I like hypalon rubber..."
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Old 05-06-2016   #14
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No doubt roundboats are more versatile....cats are fun, but a 14' cat IMO is pretty small, straddling the fence between playboat and ultralight multiday rig. (I would love to have a 14' sotar cat)

It is nice that the NRS comes with a bunch of necessary gear...but I personally would have a hard time paying $3000 for a 15 year old boat. Yeah there should be lots use left in it as I do have a 35 year old hypalon Hyside in my quiver.

$2500 is fair...I'd personally consider $2000 if it was close (I have 6 rafts). But if you need all that stuff by May 27th, you might just have to go with it and I doubt you'd regret it.
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Old 05-06-2016   #15
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15 year old NRS wouldn't bother me a bit. The versatility of the raft is much greater than the cat. Pick it up and you can probably sell it for the same later if you want a bigger raft or a cat.

I am a die hard catboater but prefer a raft for trips. They are much more comfortable, easier to pack and load, and carry much more gear and people for equivalent size.
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Old 05-10-2016   #16
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Looks like a pretty decent deal. Too bad a trailer doesn't come with it. Ya gotta wonder if the guy has a dry box he might throw in to sweeten the deal.

Or just make a lower offer.

I bought a really old Sotar 14.5' with everything and a trailer. Within a couple of years a couple of seams blew and it became patching material (the floor had been replaced so I have that and may have a new raft built around the floor to save money). When that happened my brother loaned me his 13.5 ft Sotar.

It is a bit small for multiday trips but it is gives you great action and is super nimble. Last summer I took my two oldest sons (both big 16 year olds) on a four day trip and it was fine. I would say that 3 people is probably max for a boat that size for a multiday trip.
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Old 05-10-2016   #17
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. . . and if you get it, don't look back. There is absolutely no reason to regret that deal.
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Old 05-10-2016   #18
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Originally Posted by mackay View Post
I dont pack allot of gear as I come from a backpacking background. Basically just your essentials and I can never see myself bringing a firepan.
Maybe you should stick with backpacking...
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Old 05-10-2016   #19
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Thanks for all the input I am going to check out this outfit on monday!

Originally Posted by Flohotter View Post
Maybe you should stick with backpacking...
I still backpack however my Dad and Uncle can no longer walk in the woods; cant wait to take them on a float! Although all the ganja burning on the river might make them wonder what exactly it is they are doing.
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Old 05-15-2016   #20
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I've got a NRS 14' SB-Expedition. Rigged out by Forest Safety Products in Bayfield Co. It's a tough boat and taken care of should last a lifetime. Just because a boat has been inflated doesn't mean it's a good boat. Has it been "Loved", or just ridden hard and put away dirty. I always clean my boat after a trip and wipe it down with 303 Protecterant. It's "Amour All" for you stuff. UV, heat & cold can lessen the life of any boat. Just like buying a used car, know what you buying.

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