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Old 10-07-2013   #1
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This just in from Grand Canyon National Park

Grand Canyon National Park announces plan to accommodate river permit holders once government re-opens

Grand Canyon, Ariz. – The National Park Service at Grand Canyon National Park announced today that all river permit holders who were denied their scheduled launch due to the government shutdown will receive a refund for permit fees.
River permit holders will also be entitled to reschedule for a Colorado River trip with their choice of dates in 2013, 2014, 2015 or 2016. The permit holder will be required to submit their choices within 60 days of the government reopening. No more than three launches will be permitted in a day and the new trip must adhere to the trip length of the chosen season.
Permittees who had launch dates three days prior to opening and including opening day, may choose to get a refund for permit fees and reschedule with the same parameters as outlined above or launch after opening. The maximum number of launches will be adjusted to four per day for the first two days after opening. After that, the maximum will be three launches per day until the backlog has been cleared. River permit holders with the current launch date will have priority to launch on their scheduled date.
Commercial river companies that have scheduled launches during the government shutdown will be able to carry over lost user days that occurred under the government shutdown in the 2014 season. A user day is equal to one passenger on the river over the period of one day. Therefore, if a company was to launch with 10 passengers for 10 days, they’ll be able to carry over 100 user days in the 2014 season.
Twenty-one private river launches and six commercial launches were scheduled over the first two weeks in October.
“The Park worked closely with affected parties to develop this plan, and I appreciate their understanding and support,” stated Park Superintendent Dave Uberuaga.
Details will be sent to each river permit holder outlining the options in the plan and any priority each may have.
The Park is also looking at options for other permit holders, and will provide information on any options it may offer in the near future.
Public Affairs Office
Grand Canyon National Park
Public Affairs Officer Maureen Oltrogge

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Old 10-07-2013   #2
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glad for those folks.

sorry they were so inconvenienced, but glad they will get something of a consolation prize.

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Old 10-07-2013   #3
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This is at least to some relief that we are not out our permits totally.
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Old 10-07-2013   #4
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If they are not getting paid how did they have the time to come up with this plan?
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Old 10-07-2013   #5
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I'd suggest that two permits over the next four years would be more appropriate. Say one on the GC and one of choice elsewhere.

This to compensate for the expenses lost this year.
Vacation time etc.


Essential personnel could have come up with this plan.
In all its complexity.
It could have been on standby from two weeks ago.
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Old 10-08-2013   #6
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The permit fees are the least of the expenses.

Complete and utter bullcrap still. Just do like Westwater, allow self registration.

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Old 10-08-2013   #7
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The whole point of this system is to reduce impact. Now they are throwing more numbers down the river at once. So stupid. Just let'm launch!
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Perhaps if they claimed to be lgbt and that to not let them launch would violate their civil rights. It might also help if they all had union cards and were illegal aliens.
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You couldn't even make this stuff up.

TUSAYAN, Ariz. (AP) — Nearly two dozen people have been issued citations for entering Grand Canyon National Park after a partial government shutdown forced its closure.

Grand Canyon Chief Ranger Bill Wright says some people have been caught at the South Rim, on trails, attempting rim-to-rim hikes or trying to sneak in through dirt roads.

All of the citations will be handled by the U.S. Attorney’s Office. Wright says each of the 21 citations issued as of Monday has a mandatory order to appear in federal court.

A state highway that runs through the national park was closed after Grand Canyon officials found tourists removing barricades at overlooks along the road.

Wright says law enforcement will be patrolling the park around the clock. Most other park employees have been furloughed.
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Old 10-08-2013   #10
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Sounds like a great way to spend our tax dollars. Go for a hike on PUBLIC land, appear in federal court. Its been quite a while since I had any thought that our government could run intelligently, but I think we have crossed a new threshold, where we (a big giant collective we- doesn't matter which side of the political spectrum you happen to hang out on) are all really fucked. On the bright side, my local river may be full of garbage, not very exciting, and getting kinda cold, but at least its not on land managed by the feds.

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