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Old 03-05-2015   #1
Bismarck, North Dakota
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serious question about kayakers

Dear Abby, A good friend of mine is a kayaker, he's the one responsible for getting me hooked on rafting.
I finally bought a 10.5 raft. Well the other day he invited me on a trip in the spring on some technical creek in Idaho.
He said he wanted to see me "boof" my raft. Should I be concerned? Can he fit a banjo in a piranha? He asked me to "carry some gear" for him. I guess my wife's and my concern is I may be defiled, we've all heard stories about kayakers? Are they true? I want to go on this trip but don't want to hear how "Purdy" my mouth is and I can't really squeal like a pig.
Your thoughts please on my conundrum. This trip sounds like fun till the tent sharing part comes into play.

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Old 03-06-2015   #2
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Sleep with a gun. Carry your gear, you buy beer!

Dude, I'd see you on the river but I'm hardly ever out there.
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Old 03-06-2015   #3
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id be more concerned about your boating skills to run a technical creek in Idaho in spring time...
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Old 03-06-2015   #4
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id be more concerned about your boating skills to run a technical creek in Idaho in spring time...
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Old 03-06-2015   #5
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Dear Sammypsycho:
Dude. Deliverance was based in Georgia. The guys were in canoes, not kayaks... And it was the weird inbred locals that raped them and made them squeal like pigs, not their fellow canoeists.
I guess if your buddy's sittin there playin the banjo at camp and you suddenly hear another banjo in the background, then maybe you should worry.
It's a good day to be a duck....
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Old 03-06-2015   #6
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id be more concerned about your boating skills to run a technical creek in Idaho in spring time...

You should spend your time learning to run your new boat instead of trolling kayakers. One day the words "grab onto the loop" may sound like an angelic choir to your chundered, soggy, whupped ass.

Welcome to rafting. Take your coworkers out on a few splashy trips and you'll be over the Deliverance-themed jokes by the end of the season.

Be safe,

Nothing in the world is more yielding and gentle than water. Yet it has no equal for conquering the resistant and tough. The flexible can overcome the unbending; the soft can overcome the hard. - Lao Tse
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Old 03-06-2015   #7
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I'm new to rafting but not paddling. I have about 10 years of canoeing, currently I have a 13 foot mad river whitewater canoe. We run the creeks here in ND IN THE spring or when ever we get a lot of rain. I'm cool with class II stuff anything bigger and it takes on a lot of water. Trying to navigate a swamped canoe sucks.
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Old 03-06-2015   #8
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Dear soggypants,

Kayakers can no more change their ways than the sky can change from blue to orange. Beneath their gruff, drunken exterior most are gentle little butterflies that blow away at the thought of getting cold or sleeping alone or running out of alcohol. Keep them well supplied with the things that they need and one day you may find yourself like a flower, wilting in a chaotic torrent and you may need a butterfly to float in and make it all better.
It is a beautiful symbiotic relationship that inspires greatness in both parties. Both of your species have developed specialized skills and attributes to help the other survive. Respect the grand creator of all that is (Eric Jackson) and you will be fine.

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Old 03-06-2015   #9
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I get sooo confused with these kind of threads, and there are a lot of them on this board. I never know who to hate on, or with. I'm a former open boater, I paddle a creek boat 100+ days a year, I've been to multiple Freestyle World Championships to root for my son and many other friends and I love multi day trips whether kayak self supporting or rowing a raft. My gf just got a minimax so I can't even hate on R2ing now. WTF?

I'll tell you WTF. The rio is what we all love and have in common and if you aren't bringing the love for all your brothers and sisters of the rio then you haven't learned the most basic boating lesson yet.
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What creek are we talking about here?

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