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Old 01-27-2015   #31
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Here's a few shots from the run on Oak Creek below Sedona at 700 cfs in 2010. Brushy, but fun. Hopefully this weather pattern changes and you guys get some moisture. I'd love to come boat in the AZ desert again.
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Old 01-27-2015   #32
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Did you see any willows that would stop a raft from Childs to Sheeps Crossing? Were the tubs at Sheeps crossing operational?

Have they done any work on any new campsites upstream of the power plant at Childs?

There are the typical tight, reed filled channels that are dicey in kayaks/IKs, and plenty of them. I've seen the FS down there with lightly loaded Puma sized rafts w/ oar frames. I don't know how they do it. I wouldn't consider rafting the wilderness Verd because as the water gets high enough to think raft, the narrow tree lined channels would be scary as shit! I guess at most flows you could do it with a little pushing here and there. A rapid I think is called "Nasty Rock Bar"(?) was the mankiest by far. As for improved campsites, I didn't notice any. The tall reeds are the biggest factor in finding good camping. The FS map is helpful for keeping track of where you are, but the labeled campsites are pretty outdated. The tubs at Sheeps Xing are not good right now. The road into Childs was closed briefly when we launched so we had the Hotsprings to ourselves...

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Old 01-30-2015   #33
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Looks like we will get another bump in flow. 1120 cfs at Oak Creek. Probably see a bump near Camp Verde tomorrow.
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Old 01-30-2015   #34
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A buddy and I just ran the Verde from Beasly to Horshoe dam a couple weeks ago. Flow was around 200-350CFS (it rained on the way down). I would agree that there are many very narrow channels with lots of strainers. Not sure how a raft would get through there, but an IK or paddle cat would be ok I think with the right flows. We had packrafts, and even then strainers caused a few swims. That said we saw a crew of rangers on the river (they had IK's) and they were working on removing vegetation. Maybe things will improve. Verde falls was the only thing we portaged because it looked super boney at that level. I think maybe there was a line though. Maybe.

On the positive side, we saw lots of river otters, bald eagles, bighorn sheep, and plenty of other birds. Plus the scenery is great and the bonus of having 2 hot springs and one warm spring on the way is cool as well. The tub at sheep bridge is operational, but it is hidden in the reeds. From the river, someone chopped a tunnel trough the reeds to the tub (made of stones). It feels very Indiana Jones going through that way. You are crouched down super low and it is very dark in the tunnel. Alternatively, you can go to the west side of the bridge and drop down to the springs - just look for a trail.

The rest of the way to Horshoe was beautiful except there was one nasty strainer that got my buddy and he took a long swim. Throwbag rescue ensued. The reservoir was almost completely empty so we had flow all the way to the take out. I much prefer the horshoe take out over the marathon drive to and from sheep bridge.

Great trip all in all I think. Some huge, beautiful, and remote country out there. Just be careful of the vegetation.

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Old 01-31-2015   #35
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Well is anyone getting it? The Salts over 5000.
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Old 01-31-2015   #36
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I am going to hit Tonto creek with some of the peeps that are on this thread tomorrow. Or the upper salt if Tonto falls too much.

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Old 01-31-2015   #37
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Watching the Salt gage and wondering just how all this rain will effect places like Hannigan Meadows snotel numbers. Any Salt Canyon or Show Low locals have opinions.
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Old 02-01-2015   #38
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I'm on my way to the salt put in. It's running around 2900 right now. I'm getting close to Globe. Stoked!

Woke up this morning at 10:13.
A hole so big, it sucked the leaves off the tree.
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Old 02-01-2015   #39
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Lucky SOB!!

We just got off the lower Verde run yesterday. Great trip - even with rain for nearly 24hrs straight. Sought refuge in a cave - it was pretty sweet!
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Old 02-01-2015   #40
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Camp Verde hit 2510 cfs which apparently beat the record of the last 37 years set in 1993 at 2150cfs for this day.

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