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Old 08-23-2016   #1
Lake Oswego, Oregon
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Rogue Shuttle Crash

AFFORDABLE SHUTTLES on the Rogue River CRASHED two of our vehicles, one into the other, rear-ended their own caravan. They took no responsibility for the accident and from the liability waver that we all signed, that is their right. The end result was that the person who owned the vehicle that rear-end the other vehicle was out a $1000 deductible, increased insurance rates, and the hassle of getting her vehicle repaired. The second vehicle was covered by the first vehicle's insurance though the owner had the hassle of getting the vehicle repaired too. We were further taken aback that they insisted on keeping the shuttle fees as "the vehicles were shuttled per contract". They eventually returned ONE shuttle fee though they wrecked two vehicles. AFFORDABLE SHUTTLES is now operated by new owners, Sam & Diane Kinser, and its our impression that they are too hands off and don't take enough responsibility for managing their shuttles. So beware!

Actually these rigs were not in our group. I am just forwarding this info.

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Old 08-23-2016   #2
Nye, Montana
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Ya my shuttle rig got stolen last year. Affordabke shuttles was supposed to pu at graves creek but didnt. Kind of a grey area i guess. Sorry to hear that.

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Old 08-23-2016   #3
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That sounds pretty fucked up. Sorry to hear about your vehicles.
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Old 08-23-2016   #4
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Is it possible that the driver that caused the accident gets something on their record?

I'd recommend photos and police contacts with the objective of some blame being assigned somewhere.

Get that specific driver out of this business.
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Old 08-23-2016   #5
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Liability waivers aren't exactly bombproof. With only $1000 on the line getting a lawyer involved probably would not pay off, but if you have the pockets the personal sense of justice might make it worth it.
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Old 08-23-2016   #6
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Your insurance company has lawyers that will work for free make sure they have the waiver to review.

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Old 08-23-2016   #7
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I hear more and more stories like this one. Deschutes, Snake, and Rogue shuttle disasters. I am still learning to trust shuttle drivers. I take a big sigh of relief when I see it there in one piece. Sorry for your troubles, it doesn't seem right to me.
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Old 08-24-2016   #8
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A rock tumbling onto the road and being hit is one thing.

One professional driver rear ending another is a clear case of negligent driving. Their 'waiver' is shit, but it is true it may take more than most are willing to wade through.

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Old 08-24-2016   #9
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So what's the takeaway from these stories? Are there any steps to be taken to mitigate our chances of disaster or to better protect ourselves?

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Old 08-24-2016   #10
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Its good that the story is shared. It is good to know this is a shuttle company to avoid

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