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Old 06-28-2014   #1
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Ramp Etiquette

there have probably been many threads on this in the past, but after today a small rant seems required!

why do some people insist on pulling their boat right up to the takeout ramp when it will be 20 minutes or more before they get their boat trailer to the ramp? why do people with kids have to let their kids play all over the ramp when there are trailers backing down? why do people feel the need to de-rig their boat while it is on the trailer on the ramp? and yet others that decide to park their truck and trailer in the loading zone while they have a barbecue?

keep your kids off the roadway and the ramp! do not bring your boat over to the ramp until you are ready to remove it from the water. load your boat and pull your truck and trailer out of the way, you can lash it down and clean out the cooler while NOT blocking the ramp. when it says loading zone, load and unload there and then GET OUT OF THE WAY!

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Old 06-28-2014   #2
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I think you are preaching to the choir here on the Buzz. At least I hope so. Last week on the Big Hole two boats plugged a swift-water take out and didn't even have there shuttles run yet. We had to wait on an island for them to do so. 40 min +. I really wish there was signs or bulletins at put in/take outs to better educate these people. I believe some are just unaware of their poor etiquette.


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Old 06-28-2014   #3
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I agree about more signage, but with lack of , I take the responsibility upon myself! lol. Im all about educating folks on the water/ski hill. lol.

as someone who paddles small crafts... I know what you mean... drives me nuts sometimes... it usually takes me less than 5 min to de-rig a trip. if I had to backup a trailer, and wait for all the yahoos to get out of the way, id go crazy! luckily I just pull my little boat up wherever there is space and carry it right past all the yahooos. ( happened to me today at s canyon take out). aint nobody got time for that~!!!! but yeah, why wait for mtn buzz, if there is people being inconsiderate at takeouts...Tell em!!!
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Old 06-28-2014   #4
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it was at Two Rivers park in Glenwood today.

one group had a like new 4 door dodge pickup (orange-ish color) backed into the area near the port a potties perpendicular to the ramp. they had a trailer attached to the truck and were taking up a lot of space and making the approach to the ramp risky for their truck. they had two duckies that said blue sky on them, a 12' cat that looked new, along with dry bags, and other gear spread all over. from the time i parked my boat to the time i was loaded strapped down and leaving, they had not moved. It was at least 20 minutes that i was there and their boats were dry when i got there.

then there was a group of Up Tha Creek boats along the west side of the road going to the ramp. 3 rafts, a pile of life jackets and other gear, then they parked two vans, one with a trailer along the curb (yellow) and proceeded to SLOWLY figure out how to load their gear. one guy was backing toward the ramp and had to go over the curb because of the Up Tha Creek crew. i mention to one of the van drivers that he was parked in a poor spot, i got a dumb look back.

there were 3 boats that came down the fork just as i got to the confluence, one cat, and two rafts full of kids. one woman on the cat told everyone to keep their kids clear of the ramp, but apparently no one listened. the first raft guy got his boat loaded and cleared the ramp quickly, then it was my turn. when the car got on the ramp and i could see the back of the trailer , there were 2 or 3 kids on the ramp behind my trailer, one little girl right in the middle of the ramp facing the other way with no parent saying a word. she was only a few feet from the trailer. i honked my horn and got out about the same time as someone shooed the kid away. numerous kids were at the edge of the water (in the way) when i waded out and got my boat. i pulled my boat out and up to the pavement where i then tied it down. the dodge truck was still there, and the other raft guy was backing over the curb thanks to the commercial idiots.
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Old 06-28-2014   #5
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Perhaps instead of sitting there stewing just go talk to the parties in a friendly manner and educate them a bit on ramp etiquette - just a thought. If they are newbies, and we all were at some point, they might just appreciate knowing how they should make use of the ramp.
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Old 06-29-2014   #6
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Originally Posted by spencerhenry View Post
it was at Two Rivers park in Glenwood today.

there's a surprise.

the ramp gaper quotient is nearly always inverse to the river's difficulty. so a popular,easy class II run is going to be a class IV gaperfest at the put in's and take outs.

got it?
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Old 06-29-2014   #7
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I don't mind bulldozering right into the gaper takeout scene and pushing their shit aside. Gotten plenty of bad looks but never has anyone said anything. I figure they'll learn to move their boats aside because some brutish asshole will likely come busting in and knock them loose.
"You're gonna be doin a lot of doobie rolling when youre LIVIN IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER"
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Old 06-29-2014   #8
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Ok - I will say it.

Stay home if you are going to be the grumpy guy on the river and at the boat ramp. I can just picture everyone having a good time and you kicking the ground pissed off, because you have to hang out on the river another 45 minutes.

Talk to people, they are not doing it on purpose and will more than likely help you load if you are nice. They might even give you a beer as a sorry.

It's the river, they are just trying to have a good time and forget about life like the rest of us. They don't need their boss showing up and giving them a hard time. I always love how the grumpy guys efficiency is more important than everyone else good time.

I am not saying that having a shit show on the ramp is the way to do it, but being the guy that bring the dark unspoken negativity cloud over the ramp is just as bad.
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Old 06-29-2014   #9
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The Real Problem is that all of you are in Rafts.
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Old 06-30-2014   #10
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I knew my post would draw flames from some kind brother. But it's not my responsibility on my day off to educate gapers. Nor do I really have the time. I find it much more efficient to just do it my way. It's not that I'm dark and negative about it I just tend to mosh my way through stuff. After I budge someones shit aside I'll gladly hand them my flask.

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