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Old 06-30-2009   #11
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Originally Posted by Dave Frank View Post
I can't speak for the others, but pumphouse should be fine, as long as you can miss the hole in yarmony.
Where is the hole in yarmony? Run it left, correct?

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Old 07-01-2009   #12
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Still haven't gotten out to do either of these runs in the raft (have kayaked them at lower flows). If we do, I'll report back. I would love to see the UC at these flows!

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Old 07-01-2009   #13
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Linda, I recently took a few suggestions from the buzz on family runs and we did the Colorado from Grizzly to New Castle. We also did the Roaring Fork from Carbondale to Glenwood. Both were nice family runs with enough to keep the family interested and comfortable enough to take a turn on the oars. Cy
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Old 07-01-2009   #14
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I've rafted Grizz to New Castle with the kids - and it was perfect. Good to hear about the Roaring Fork, I've wondered about that one. Thanks, Cy!
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Old 07-01-2009   #15
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I thought the Upper C at 5000 started to get washed out. Eye of the needle can be run on either side of the rock in a kayak, but I've always run right (it's a bigger channel for the raft.) Yarmony would be hard to totally miss in a raft right now, but if you start left and punch it, I can't imagine it's a big deal. In kayaks we eddied and took a look at the almost river wide hole.

With the exception of the 2 signature rapids I thought the wave trains got smaller and almost all of the breaking waves dissappeared. Concentrate on the two moves and you will grease everything else without even trying.
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Old 07-01-2009   #16
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Family Run vs. Yarmony

Hi Linda, We just ran Yarmony on Sat. and it was high and fast. I understand a commercial raft flipped and I know we talked to some very experienced rafters who threw people out on that stretch. I loved it, but I personally would choose another run if I had kids, at least until it comes down. Call me over cautious, but I don't think you can be with kids.

We float either Grizzly or Roaring Fork to South Canyon almost every weekend and that's a good family float. It is high again this week, so Maintanance Shed in the G. Canyon is punchy, and the wave train in South Canyon is big, but if you stay straight you and the kids will have a great time!
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Old 07-01-2009   #17
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Thanks, good advice. And I am very cautious with the kids, so I'm glad you posted.
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Old 07-01-2009   #18
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Roaring Fork is a bit shorter/faster at higher water than Grizzly to New Castle. The former being a shade over 2 hours, and Griz to New Castle closer to 3. The debris rapid (does anyone know if it has a name?) about a mile or so above South Canyon can have some sizable haystacks at this level - not difficult, but just be aware.

Think we'll be up on Pumphouse this Saturday...
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Old 07-10-2009   #19
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Thanks for the info, folks. Floatin' Friday in the 16' cat fish rig with the wife and a friend.

What is the lowest cfs to run such a rig?

It's been a couple of years I seems to recall the trestle rapid move is to stick right under the bridge and back out and watch out for an I beam in the middle. I'll scope it first.


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Old 07-10-2009   #20
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Lowest CFS on the Eagle? You can bump your way down with just a couple hundred, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Yes, trestle, start right (either side of the bridge pylon) then just stay square with the waves, stay off the bank on the curves, and avoid the hole (last night it was more pourover) on the right by the big boulder when you exit the rapid.

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