Originally Posted by BrianP
Just for the sake of argument and I'm not saying no wrong was done. But would anyone be aware of this huge ecological disaster if not for the pictures? I don't know 100% but it seems that they had themselves a party and cleaned up. The only reason anyone knows is because of their pictures? Is that correct?
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Beyond the fire issue which they may, or possibly may not have mostly cleaned up, there was also the sitting in Granerys issue.
One group may only inflict a small amount of damage, if a bunch of people do that..........
It's not the end of the world, just irritating bull shit, probably more so if this is, or was, your office. Used to piss me off when people trashed the Arkansas river where I worked. What the F, here, let me come leave a bag of trash on your manicured lawn, and piss on your rose bushes, ass hole.
By the time you are even thinking about pulling off a major river trip, you should have caught on to no trace practices, or at least skimmed the rule book, they should be on a commercial trip if they don't know basic stuff.
I have seen plenty of boaters drink and party heavily, and still manage to not trash the place.
The problem isn't booze, it's Idiots, we have a surplus of them, perhaps shoot an idiot day? Or stop interfering, and let natural selection work? That ought to get the save the morons crowd angry" How could you, not there fault there stupid, and don't even make an effort".
Vehicle accessed camps are way worse, but it does kinda suck when it's the Grand Canyon.
The last rant was not at you brian, I know you said for the sake of argument.
Sorry to anyone I didn't mean to P.O., And if I did mean to Piss you off, glad it worked!
and no, just making a mess in the grand canyon does not make me want "shoot an idiot" day, Just a general idea, I'd suggest a vote, but they out number us.