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Old 09-06-2012   #21
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Originally Posted by Chip View Post
The biggest problem with small fishing cats in whitewater is that the degree of rocker and the short waterline make it impossible to hold a good line. They don't track well, and when they hit a wave they tend to go sideways and then (owing to the high center of gravity) flip. I've seen this happen repeatedly on class II-III.

There are oarframe boats designed for whitewater, such as the Jack's Cuttroat, that cost more but are a safer bet. Not hard to build a fishing frame, for fishing. But you need a boat that will track, and decent oarlocks, for whitewater.
Big +1 on that. I tried to run big class III in my 10 foot fishing Cat and got spanked hard. They are designed to turn on a dime for fishing, and they do just that.....turn sideways on the way up the face of a big wave. Bingo, over she goes. That's when I uttered to myself the infamous line from Jaws.....your gonna need a bigger boat !!!!!

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Old 09-06-2012   #22
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I've boated in a water strider/Abel several times on Westwater for the thrill of it. 2 swims (both at SITM out of 6-7 attempts. Very exciting ride, no adverse issues with the intergrated oar system.

On the other hand, my friend (the owner) has swam multiple times, including Snaggletooth on the Dolores.

We've even brought to Alaska twice, with great reviews (from me, fwiw).

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Old 09-07-2012   #23
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Im out east and with our shallow rivers cat's are alot better IMHO. We have alot of shallow ledges and rock gardens and some of the chutes are not wide enough for a cat or raft. And with the cat I can straddle the rock and get on thru. And with the cat it was easier to add a nice mount for a gas motor.

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Old 09-08-2012   #24
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There is supposedly a trick to keep the Able/Watermaster upright, in bigger water. Let your legs hang down. I have never tried it [think.. Whack a Mole?]. My technique is to power thru similar to a kayak move only backwards. A tiny bit of rocker [ maybe the Scaddon Assult] would be nice on a small boat but the present Scaddon and most other small pontoon designs are ridiculous: slanted to being able to spin the boat around with foot fins so as to better fish thereby eliminating tracking in rough water. Loosing 1/3 of the already small footprint is not a good idea in big waves or boils. I still love the little boats for an afternoon float/fish. So far Watermaster=no rocker,slow on lakes then Scaddon, Creek co. etc.=too much rocker. Come on guys, the rocker looks sexy but is useless [think... rocking horse]. I owned the W.M. and it would spin with fins like a top with no rocker at all.
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Old 09-13-2012   #25
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Old 09-14-2012   #26
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Scadden is smoking crack class V my arse. The pac 1200 is in your price range. If you can afford a little more a NRS frame with Aire tubes will give you a capable whitewater boat.

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