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Old 09-09-2016   #21
Jackson, Wyoming
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I'm not adding much here, but want to drive home the fact that some of the above comments represent the single best advice you'll ever get. Not just for rafting, but for life. THE BEST LIFE ADVICE YOU'LL EVER GET. Don't squander it.

I had one daughter early, and then another one 13 years later. I didn't do enough of this stuff with the older one, and regret it more than anything. We try occasionally now that she's grown up and has her own life, but it's just not her priority, and it doesn't work out that well. You only get one chance and, as others have said, that door closes at about 12 or 13 years old.

By contrast, my 13 year old daughter, for whom I've made such things a priority, lives for adventure and wilderness, and is completely at home on the river. The BEST thing is that, at 13, she's already a full participant - not just baggage. It's amazing the amount of growth that occurs between 9 and 13. Case in point, I took her and my 9 year old on the San Juan this Spring. She rowed, she helped cook, she set up and broke down the tent by herself, and helped load the boat.

FWIW, we did a lower-water San Juan trip in April with some other families, just before the permit season, because it corresponds with our Spring Break schedule. Perhaps that's another option for you? You'd be assured of a launch. Weather can be touch-and-go, but we lucked out. The other nice thing about this strategy is that the sediment and metals from the Gold King spill will be somewhat settled and aren't being flushed and agitated from spring runoff.

Here are some pics for inspiration, in case you need more convincing: Teaching the 9 year old to row, day hikes and swimming, rapids... smiles. I had the kids walk Government (daughter took picture), but really didn't need to. At low levels, there are other rapids that are actually more tricky than this one.

Let us know what you decide, and how it goes.
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Old 09-09-2016   #22
Apache Junction, Arizona
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It looks like you had a pretty good time on the trip. Thats great that your 2 younger kids are into it. I have really been trying to make sure all my kids are into doing the outdoor activities. Every summer we generally go on a camping trip. I also take them all down the lower salt every year. My 4 year old son really loves doing that. I also do an annual fishing trip in May normaly on the black river that I started bringing my oldest daughter on a couple of years ago and will bring my 7 year old daughter this year. ( I would bring them sooner but there is a kind of hard hike into where we fish) Hopefully that does not conflict with when they do the San Juan.

I am glad to see that there is a decent rapid on the San Juan, that will make it a little more fun. How is the fishing on the river? It will also be a good warm up for her for the following year I am hoping to take her down the day trip on the upper salt.

Hopefully we get a permit but maybe they have just been going in April like you said when they didn't get the permit. I didn't even know it was a permit system until this post so I am glad I found that out.
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Old 09-27-2016   #23
Marietta, Georgia
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Do the San Juan..I am trying to put together a trip so I can take my grandaughter .Enjoy that week. Time in the wilderness with the kiddos =awesome memories! !
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Old 09-27-2016   #24
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I t will be fun to try something different and my daughter is excited about it because I asked her if she would rather do our fishing trip or do the river camping trip and she really wants to do the river.
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Old 09-28-2016   #25
Pieter Porcupine
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Originally Posted by duct tape View Post
Thanks. I always thought San Juan was a easy cruising, camping, Anasazi ruin-ing kind of river. Thanks looks like a real rapid.
We did MH to SI at 6000 last June and the new Twin Canyons rapid was almost as exciting as govt. As for the previous post of the upper section not being that interesting I completely disagree. Do your research and the whole river will open up to you.
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Old 10-03-2016   #26
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San Juan, as a rafter parent, nuf said.

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