Originally Posted by bucketboater
You guys had several opportunities to pick him up and seemed to just let him float by. That blue raft was in prime position and never even threw a stroke. Been in this situation a couple times. One boat picks up the boater while the other boats bump the flipped boat to shore or get a line on it. One tired boater will never flip a multiday rig, pick him up asap. I also run a belly line on big water so in case of a flip im not getting thrown around while upside down. Sorry if it sounds like im busting your balls, but that should of went down alot smoother. Maybe a pretrip discussion with assigned duties basesd on people strengths and some type of plan.
Dear Captain Obvious -
If you are talking about the large blue Maravia that would be me. How do you think I got in prime position? By rowing steadily and hard for five minutes straight ( or more) to even get close.
So while it's easy to sit in judgement and say "you shoulda done this" there are other factors involved.
Buck ( the guy on the raft ) had just SUPed the first 24 miles of spring water Selway. He is a badass and one tough son of a bitch. Plays rugby and is just an all around burly back country telemarker, besides having quite a bit of water experience.
The two kayakers that were right with him are exceptional boaters with tons of experience.
And Jerry in the camera cat was right there and much lighter and more maneuverable so I let him in. He was working his ass off too in case you couldn't tell.
So when they waved me off, ( and I called Buck this morning and he added that - I didn't remember) I gave them a little room. Twenty feet from shore, two world class kayakers and a cat right there and I could see that there wasn't an eddy of any kind that I could stop in on that wall on river left.
Obviously with the crystal clarity of hindsight we should have got Buck off the raft to another boat, to the shore - something. At the time it did not seem that weird or bad what was going down. That is why I am talking about this now and posting up a bit. To see what can be done better next time.
You saying "hey you fucked up" is about as constructive as pissing in the wind. But have at it if it makes you feel superior.
It never occurred to me to have a plan...thanks for that too.
Out of all that the boat lost a table that was under a cargo net. No one was hurt, nothing else was lost. Unlike you, I am still learning and wish to do better next time. And don't mind sharing with some humility what happened and how we reacted and what could have been better.
I thought maybe I had said something unkind to you at some point but I looked through your post history a bit and you're pretty much an asshole to everyone. Whatever works for you.