Originally Posted by glenn
PFDs do have quick releases. General standard is any biner attached to your body not on a quick release system should be locked shut so no additional lines can snap into them. If a line is under tension you probably won't be able to back it out of a biner anyways so you should be going for the knife anyways.
I don't consider PFDs quick release as they have giant zippers and multiple snaps. That was my point. I do recognize my rescue vest does have quick release features. I have operated under the assumption that anything clipped to me other than my pdf should be quick release. Could be wrong.
Your comment gets to my point though....why is a flip line around the waist not designed to be quick release? If I am in the water I don't want anything wrapped around my waist that isn't quick release. Seems a lot safer than having a knife out around my viscera.
I ask because the only lines I have clipped to myself have been quick release but I have never been trained in swiftwater rescue specific for rafting, just a generic scenario for canyoneering.
Wouldn't be hard to have a flip line around the waist be quick release even with a biner....just adapt the length to setup a minter/mule combo on one side. Pull the mule and you are good to go.
In all honesty why not just eliminate the biner and just run a mule through a water knot on the opposite side? Biner seem just seems to be an extraneous component...just have biners attached at each D-Rng if you don't want to run through the d-ring with a quick hitch/knot.