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Old 05-21-2013   #21
prescott, Arizona
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i've never done the shuttle myself but from talking to the shuttle folks i think they usually do the hanksville route.

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Old 05-21-2013   #22
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Where you put in is not as impotent' as where you will end up: North Wash takeout, or continue to Bullfrog (add 45 miles, plus motor). I took out at North Wash on 4/27, it was gooey yuck for 5 feet (sink to ankles and keep moving or worse!) and then 30 yards to the boost up the "ramp" (no longer maintained by NPS or anyone else...). We were two boat four person trip (17' Riken Hualapai and 17' Incept on maiden voyage) and it took us from 5 PM to 8 PM to carry our gear up to where we could load vehicles. And would have taken longer without a couple of stalwart 20-somethings who pitched in and helped (we met one at Mineral launch, the other we had found his sand stake at Ben Hurt - "Rapid 20" in earlier post and worth a look, aka "Island rapid").
Cat is ALWAYS worth doing, but logistics are daunting.
Hanksville is easier on vehicles than the other way 'round (from Moab, past Natural Bridges - do your map research and you'll see). But stay away! It's dangerous! and HOT! Scenery is BORING. Lots of critters that sting and stab!
Plus new since 2010 - if anyone knows of previous, please post: ringtails at Brown Betty. Thieving bastard invaded my camp but TL - with over 100 Cat trips - refused to believe it. Last October (2012) the Bad Cat walked across that TL's face, he's now a believer...
Water will likely be 4-5k. Easy level, but expect to row in afternoons with bad winds. Yes, there's current all the way to Hite - and past.
Good luck with takeout!

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Old 05-21-2013   #23
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A buddy of mine and I christened my new boat last summer at the end of July. Flows were about 5k, it was hot but that's what we were looking for. Plenty of cold beer on the float portion. We chose the timing based off the full moon. Floated and partied till about 2 in the morning two nights to cover some mileage. I highly recommend the night float. Definitely think everyone should row out at least once. Having said that I will be getting an outboard for the next trip.
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Old 05-29-2013   #24
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Cataract report from 5/23-26

Great trip as usual on about 17Kcfs average, but prolly won't be back until the takeout is improved.

We were five boats, 9 adults, with two 9.9 Mercs and made good time on the river tracking about 12 mph, half due to the current and half to the outboards at 2/3 throttle. Some wind, but expect that in the afternoon.
We launched 5/23 2:15 pm from Potash 47 rr and camped at 33 rr huge sand bar without any stops.
5/24 9:00 launch, quick stop at 16.5 rl Indian Creek and sad to see the shady kitchen/group area has been clear cut so no more shade.
Small tent sites still exist in Tamarasks and willows near beach provide some shelter. Beach still has lots of sand, but riverbank is mostly deep mud. Dropped three hikers at 11 rl for loop climb.
Stopped at 212.5 rl to re-rig for rapids and ran down to 208.5 rr for a great camp at Upper XY with good shallow sandy beach, but carry up to sandy bench. Short hike/climb up the drainage below.

5/25 9:00 launch with great current and no wind.
Most ran right at capsize. Center pyramid rock was a pour-over with big nasty hole on left. Stay away from huge hole below in rapid #16 and of course the button hole at #19.
Our first scout was Big Drop 2. 18' cat and 16' cats ran chute on right of little Niagra pour-over without incident. Next was 16' Hippie-Cat running standard just left of marker rock with momentum to right of ledge hole and centered on wave train. 13' raft made the same move but then tried to get left of the new huge pour-over below the Claw, getting rolled off the right side of same pour-over.
16' cat next tried the left to right but caught the rock and entered the ledge hole with front left quarter and cart-wheeled over.
Both upside down boats caught in the left eddie above BD3 but one swimmer dropped the 6' waterfall far left before making it to shore. Only loss was a bad pair of prescription glasses and an unopened throw-bag, which was found much later in an eddy.

Lunch at Ten Cent beach then rowed on to rm198 before motoring down to camp at 182.7 rr directly across from Dark Canyon. The 13' raft had two more rolls in the big wave trains, which amused one passing sport boat group.
Camps are still very limited in the lower section after 198 rr, but there are signs of trails and possible camps, all with very poor landings.
Best guesses would be 201 rl (Ten Cent for sure), possible 198 rr, 186.2 Cove Canyon, maybe either Rockfall camp at 184, good 182.5 rr across from Dark Canyon (long carry, but huge open camp with early shade).
Dark Canyon mouth camp at 182.7 rl does have 5 small tent sites, but limited kitchen area and the beach is nasty mud. Still worth the stop and 50 min hike up to the big pools.

5/26 11:15 launch after Dark Canyon hike and easily motored out arriving at takeout below Dirty Devil around 1:30.
Some blown sand is accumulating on the silt banks in the lower stretch but nothing worth planning camps for. One commercial group had stayed near "Little John Lake" but did not translate to what river mile. This same group stopped for lunch at 170.5 rr just down from bridge, then followed us to 162 rr and offloaded passengers and most gear, including 18' raft, before refueling and motoring snout rig out to Hall's 45 miles further on. See pictures of take-out.

Our 5 drivers left at 2:15 for the 6-hour shuttle w/meal (take Hanksville route both ways if possible). The remaining four of us carried the three smaller boats and everyones gear across the flats and up the bank in an hour and half, before sitting in the shade to dring well-earned beers and watch the loading of the commercial raft and a few campers swimming in the river and mud near the take-out.
Camping in the parking lot allowed everyon to rest up and get an early start on the drive home of up to 8 hours for most.

Again, be prepared to carry or winch everything out at the dirty devil in its current condition or consider refueling for a clean-water motor out to Halls, maybe with a night or two camping on the lake...

Hope you enjoyed the quick update/report and pictures and can add more current info after your own future trips.
Picture titles: Camp 33rr, Camp 208.5 rr, Crynoids, Fossils/tracks, Capsize, Big Drop 2, Frogs Hole in BD3, Camp 182.6 rr, "Take-out & Carry".
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Old 05-29-2013   #25
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thanks for the heads up on your trip.

was wondering how it went for you and what the take-out was like.

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Old 05-29-2013   #26
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Great post. Thank you.
When you say "refueling," where do you get the fuel?
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Old 05-30-2013   #27
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Refueling from Hite

The gas station at Hite service road may still be open for vehicle fueling.
There is no marina service at Hite.

We saw the commercials guys (Adrift) carry eight 5 gallon jerry cans down to top off their snout, which had a 30 hp outboard and another 30 hp spare.
Try contacting adrift or others for details on milage and time to motor out.

Another truck in the lot had a 15' side tube probably 3' or 4' diameter tube to skate a boat up the hill. Now your talking tow chains, etc...
That may be the reason for the catipillar tractor in the lot.

I can imagine someone paying for the vehicle shuttle, then being stranded at Dirty Devil because they can't get their big rig out.
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Old 05-30-2013   #28
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We did Cat in mid-March.

Flows all the way past the Dirty Devil takeout and even a "rapid" has formed about a half mile below there. Flow is slow somewhere from Sheep to just past the bridge but still manageable. Easy row without motors in March; less than 2 days from Ten Cent.

Been Hurt is worth a scout (Island???) and is done easily at the top of the island.

Big Drop 2 has a narrow entry so is worth a look at low flows.

Big Drop 3 on the left is the classic line but a narrow entry that looks like it goes straight into Big Mossy but we ran it clean. An easy scout well worth the time.

Mile Longs were the most fun at low water and required the most technical moves. Read and Run.

Plenty of camps all the way to Dark Canyon and below. Massive sand bars everywhere.

Have a great trip.
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Old 05-30-2013   #29
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Just looked at the photos above.

Why are people using the upper Dirty Devil road? Curious if something happened to the lower access in the last 3 months. It was in great shape in March and was able to host 2 parties derigging at the same time with no major carries.

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Old 05-30-2013   #30
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I didn't get a picture of just the lower road, but it is just behind the green weed patch to the left of the white raft. You may be able to save the takeout picture above then be able to zoom in.
The ledge was steeper and the mud was deeper. Also swifter but shollow current made stopping the boats harder, then more mud.

We did look at the lower road, but just briefly.

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