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Old 10-22-2008   #11
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what is a come-along?
It's a hand-operated "winch."

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Old 10-22-2008   #12
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I just got home from the store. Bought 8 pulleys, 2x4s, rope and some eye hooks. Gonna put it together today and I'll take a picture or 2 and post it so you can see. The plan is to have 10' perpendicular (2x4s) with 2 6' (2x4s) as more support parallel with the boat. At the ends of the perpendicular pieces I'm attaching the eye bolts. Then I will tie the rope on each bolt directly going up to the 4 pulleys. Which will then lead towards 4 more pulleys which will allowing me to hoist the boat up into the air at approximately 9' high.

I'm a little concerned about weight. The plan is to keep the frame on the raft so I'm figuring it'll way about 200 pounds. Think that is workable?

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Old 10-22-2008   #13
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Couple of thoughts:

Exhaust is probably bad for your rubber. May want to limit engine idling in the garage this winter.

One key advantage to storing a raft in the rafters over storing a kayak in the rafters is that it's easier to wash the spiders off of the raft than out of a kayak.

Sounds like a fun project. Good luck!
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Old 10-22-2008   #14
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You're probably fine, but it is likely to be heavier with all the wood. The weak spot is probably the eyebolts, use big enough ones and you're good. You could just tie the rope directly around the perp 6' boards, and eliminate that one weak point, then you only have eye bolts in the ceiling. Set up a z-drag and you'll spread the weight out further! (can you tell I took a rescue class this fall? )
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Old 10-22-2008   #15
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Do it right:

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Old 10-23-2008   #16
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Yo Flaco i like the way you talk.

I've been debating doing the same in my garage with an ATV winch, but I really like the idea of using your truck to pull it up.

My only problem now is I inherited my girlfriend's raft to store for the winter. With a 10' ceiling height, not much would fit under both...

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Old 10-23-2008   #17
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Ihowemt is right about the weight. It's not just your boat and its' frame. It's also the wood. That will be very heavy itself. But with 8 pullies, you can go a long way on weight with that.

Be sure the eyescrews are strong enough and won't slip. One thing you may want to consider is using an eye bolt. Drill it all the way through the wood frame, add a thick washer and bolt it in. Less likely to strip.

Also make sure the hardware on the ceiling is strong as well.

If you have kids, they'll want to ride the new homemade "elevator".

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Old 10-23-2008   #18
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i finally got my rolled raft up in the garage rafters two nights ago. what a pain in the arse? it was heavy to get up there, and it's just a 13' boat. i hung the frame from the bottom side of the trusses with 4 NRS straps. i did this to distribute the load.

if possible, you should place the raft as close to one of the bearing walls as possible. with rubber/frame/wood split 8 ways, that'll be a pretty good point load on your trusses if you suspend it right in the middle of the garage.
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Old 10-23-2008   #19
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After thinking about it further.... I decided to scrap the bs pulleys I got at Home Depot and go buy some climbing pulleys. Then I will screw 2 more 2x4 across the rafters (perpendicular) and I will use 7mm climbing rope/cord and secure it to the 2x4s. That way I have no faulty eye bolts to worry about. Built the platform last night. Later today I will have gotten the new pulleys and will attempt to hang it up. You guys really think I'll need a wench type device to hoist it instead of 8 pulleys?

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Try it and see. I know I have a hard time hoisting just two kayaks, with gear, up in my shed with just 2 small pulleys. The problem is not in lifting the load per say, it is in holding it in place until you can secure it. You just have no mechanical advantage with out more pulleys in line to split the force. So the 8 single pulleys will each have 1/8 the weight to hoist and if you are pulling them all at the same time, you will still be lifting the full amount.

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