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Old 09-28-2016   #1
 
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Green River airport to Swazey's

I'm putting in at Sand Creek 10/12, and need to fly from Green River Airport back to Sand Creek that morning. Folks here have mentioned that you can leave a vehicle at the airport and find a shuttle service to bring it out to Swazey's.
-I can't find anybody who'll do that shuttle.
-Airport doesn't seem to be staffed- their number puts you in touch with the Mayor of Green River, who doesn't answer the phone.

We've got one vehicle, two people. Don't want to deal with River Runner's Transport. Anybody have good information on Green River Airport?

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Red Tail Aviation is the company that does the Air Shuttle.... River Shuttles – Fly Redtail

I imagine calling and asking them what the logistics of getting your vehicle to Swazey's and/or picking you up there after you drop the vehicle off there is.

I know you said you don't want to deal with RRT, but I'll chime in and say that I've had nothing but pleasant experiences with them and you'll save yourself $85 and half a day of driving. It would be pretty cool to do the Air Shuttle though.
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Why are you so against using the shuttle service?


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Red Tail Aviation is the company that does the Air Shuttle.... River Shuttles – Fly Redtail

I imagine calling and asking them what the logistics of getting your vehicle to Swazey's and/or picking you up there after you drop the vehicle off there is.

I know you said you don't want to deal with RRT, but I'll chime in and say that I've had nothing but pleasant experiences with them and you'll save yourself $85 and half a day of driving. It would be pretty cool to do the Air Shuttle though.
Thanks for the information. I've talked to Redtail several times- they can't help with anything on the Green River end.
As far as RRT, I've tried to get them to let me hire a driver to meet me in Green River and drive me back to Sand Creek in their vehicle after I've placed my truck. Offered to pay a premium, cash.They've told me they won't do that.
I'm less concerned about the money than I am about finding that truck where I want it, when I want it, undamaged.
I'm only considering flying because I can't find any other way back to Sand Creek. I'm sure it will be scenic but, after thirty years of flying into and out of rivers and climbs in Canada and Alaska I'd pass up a flight in another small plane without regret.
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For two reasons:

-I've driven the roads in that part of Utah for decades. I have family in Emery County. There is no problem if you drive slowly. I don't know how to make a shuttle driver who is being paid peanuts, by the trip, who I've never met, do that. I worked as a river guide in the US and Canada, and I never let a shuttle driver drive my personal vehicle.
-I've read RRT's waiver. Translated for non-lawyers, it says: 1. If something happens 2. Not our problem. That's fine, it's their business, and I don't mean to disparage them. But to do business with them I have to sign away rights to my vehicle. I won't do that.
-As I've said, I'm willing to pay a premium to get the service I want.
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For two reasons:

-I've driven the roads in that part of Utah for decades. I have family in Emery County. There is no problem if you drive slowly. I don't know how to make a shuttle driver who is being paid peanuts, by the trip, who I've never met, do that. I worked as a river guide in the US and Canada, and I never let a shuttle driver drive my personal vehicle.
-I've read RRT's waiver. Translated for non-lawyers, it says: 1. If something happens 2. Not our problem. That's fine, it's their business, and I don't mean to disparage them. But to do business with them I have to sign away rights to my vehicle. I won't do that.
-As I've said, I'm willing to pay a premium to get the service I want.
I understand your concerns and normally I would share them, but RRT definitely is a cut above the average shuttle company. For what its worth, I've had my vehicle driven by RRT 4 times in the last year, two of which were Sand Wash to Deso. The vehicle has been there every time. I did have a battery go dead on one of them but they jumped it and got it to Swasey's no problem. The only reason I knew that was because they left a friendly note. The other times there was no other indication someone else had driven the vehicle other then a receipt left for gas and the right number of miles on the vehicle.

Chances are if you just are having one vehicle done it will be either Melanie or her Husband driving it themselves. I bought ice from them on my last trip (they have really good solid block ice...not the crappy pressed cube ice) and she was adamant that they drive slow and only take the smoother Sand Wash road in and out rather then 9 mile.

If you truly need a ride from Swaysey's to the Airport, perhaps a call to one of the local raft companies, local hotels or even Ray's tavern (traditional stop after you take off the river) might bear fruit for you.

Personally, I'd only ever consider going the RRT way. You don't have to waste half a day driving the shuttle, its cheaper, and since they usually wait to shuttle the vehicle towards the end of your trip, the vehicle stays at Sand Wash which I count as being much safer for the vehicle then chilling at Swasey's boat ramp all week.

That's just my input...take it or leave it I suppose.
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FWIW....I've used RR for many years now and have had nothing but good experiences with them. I'm usually in a day early to rig and have seen many of their drivers arrive to run shuttle. All of them I've seen, look like old retired folks. No young kids in the bunch.

Have you thought about renting a van or truck from U haul and let them shuttle that?
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FWIW....I've used RR for many years now and have had nothing but good experiences with them. I'm usually in a day early to rig and have seen many of their drivers arrive to run shuttle. All of them I've seen, look like old retired folks. No young kids in the bunch.

Have you thought about renting a van or truck from U haul and let them shuttle that?
Great advice! I think you may have solved my problem.
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Forgot a bunch of bananas in the truck at Sand Wash in late June. Found my vehicle in perfect condition at the take-out with a note from RRT's driver of the fruits demise. Cleaning out a customers ratty truck should be an indication of how good these folks are. If you are so worried about your vehicle go buy a beater off Craigslist to run shuttle and just enjoy the river.
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Huh, waiver is standard for the industry. There is inherent risk that you'll have to account for but you can always challenge them if it was an incident that involved negligence or gross negligence. But I have no reason to believe that is going to happen. They are top notch and likely know how to drive those roads safer and better than 90% of the people who head into Sand Wash. I mean they do it everyday for months. I would also hesitate assuming they pay their people peanuts. Their staff have always been happy, knowledgeable and ready to help which is normally indicative of well paid employees. Just a guess, though based in 10 years of using them.

Green River Airport is best seen as an airstrip, not an airport. Most small town airstrips in Utah are largely unmanned and minimally maintained. That would explain your experience.

October is relatively lonely time in that region to be expecting a non-shuttle lift. You may find someone who is willing to help but I wouldnt be shocked if you don't. It's a small town with limited tourism after Melon Days (2 weekends ago).

If really trying to avoid the standard option just throw a mountain bike in your rig and add some extra time to peddle.
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