Wow, this little thread took a nasty turn. I've been watching for the last 4 days getting some good perspective on young kids on river trips. I have been fortunate enough to float "Gates" and the Yampa through split several times. Mori took their 8 month old, good on them! They seemingly did it right. This is a trip that can and is done by family groups provided the right water levels and the proper group experience and dynamic. For Randaddy to vent such meanness about their parenting choice is not understandable. To compare a river trip under seemingly favorable conditions and leaving a child in a car is also not understandable. Unless Randaddy is actually Nancy Grace and just wants to be over dramatic and throw fuel on an unlit fire. My son was tent camping at 3 months and floating the river at just over a year. We have been fortunate enough to be able to bring him on several river trips. He will soon be 5 and will go on a Main Salmon or San Juan or low water Gates of lodore trip if the permit gods allow. In my humble opinion if the parents feel that the child can handle the trip and the conditions are favorable and all the proper precautions have been looked after then there is nothing wrong with kids even super young kids on river trips. Believe me, they do remember it. My kiddo still remembers his early outdoor experiences and continually wants to do more. Are we just bad parents or just bad parents who got lucky according to some? That is a decision for the parents to make.