Classic is right! Classic Joe, passing the buck. As i understood it, the one "betty" claiming experience wasn't even guiding! The nissue here isn't even the wrap itself, its how the experienced guides on scene handeled the situation. Of course the person that was guiding had the greatest chance of wrapping, she has never guided before! So you can't blame her. The way I heard the story is that if one stubborn male had listened to one of the "betty's" advice, the wrap would never had taken that long. But some men have issues taking advice from the opposite sex and thusly, we find Joe stuck in the middle of the river, again. I think you got the boat that was wrapped in gore off by dropping tubes as well, didn't you learn your lesson? Well enough is enough, glad to see back home safe.