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Old 08-14-2016   #1
 
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Do R1? Is it possible? How?

Tell me when it's feasible to R1 a raft? Is it something you do often? Is it only for getting a raft through a tough rapid? Does it work well?

What kind of boats? Mini me, max, shredder?

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We used to do it as part of raft guide training for paddle rafts. I think it might be fun in anything you mentioned, if you're so inclined. Works like a canoe, although it takes more oomph to the off side. You can also switch sides. It will teach you to read water if it doesn't frustrate you into giving up.
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I sure as hell can't paddle my paddlecat in a straight line. I can get through rapids alright but how would you ever paddle through the pools? From my canoeing days I understand the j stroke but that has minor effect. Last time I had a swimmer I resorted to paddling off the bow.

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Wow...this isn't a troll, your for real?

Yes, you can absolutely R1. Where I'm from you see more people solo in a shredder than r2. It's a wonderful feeling pushing a empty raft, each stoke does so much. I like the puma and paddlecats for r1 boats but I've done alot of it in a 13' otter also.
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I sure as hell can't paddle my paddlecat in a straight line. I can get through rapids alright but how would you ever paddle through the pools? From my canoeing days I understand the j stroke but that has minor effect. Last time I had a swimmer I resorted to paddling off the bow.

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Shredders are wayyyyy faster than my cat in flat water. Because you put all your weight on one tube it sits low in the water and the river does the work for you. In a cat the water just rushes under you.
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I find R1 is a great experience and makes you a better boater overall. However, it depends in when and where, we were R1ing the Minturn Mile when it was in, I wanted to do Dowd Chute, but i missed the window, it would have to be less than 3 feet imo. Numbers would be really nice right now, but you better know all the lines, Browns canyon would probably be a great place to start or better yet, I'd say Parkdale. Its my goal to do both numbers and the Gorge eventually, but again, at lower flows, with a buddy or two (they could be in rafts or kayaks, but are there to help you if needed. Also, I've guided on the Ark for 12 years, so i know all the lines at various flows. Just don't go to high water or you could be sorry, because thats when the river will really push you around, an old buddy would put a heavy cooler in the front as a ballast, but I don't think its needed. Cheers, and with anything else in boating take it easy to begin with and go with solid people who could help you out.
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Other great sections could be gore creek, some sections of clear creek, middle eagle, lower eagle, just avoid any sections with a ton of flat water in windy conditions, ha you'll be blown back to the put in. And my vessel is a 10' White Hyside Mini Max.
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Get your J stroke dialed.


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This guy slays it r1-

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There is a guy in Portland Oregon named Martin Orlik that has R-1'ed a 13' Aire down the upper Clackamas pretty successfully, he even got stuck in the hole at Carter falls and got out. I'll see if I can find a link...
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I spent an afternoon R1-ing my 14' RMR in one of the Salida play waves at low water. It was good practice for getting the feel of my rig, and a lot of fun too.
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