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Old 09-02-2015   #11
 
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Watched your Lochsa Madness 2014 video. Nice soundtrack. Also, that's a monster freakin tree floating along at 6:47!!!
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Old 09-02-2015   #12
 
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I am making reference to jmMcDaniel's post, especially the Lochsa R. Camas Cr. might actually be more dangerous with all of the strainers. I don't like the Dutch courage people get from drinking and the peer pressure of large crowds. Then you always have someone that gets pressured into running things they are not ready for so they don't get called a pussy.


I have been around rivers for a long time. I have seen some bad stuff happen. Now I am 65 and don't do anything difficult. If I can wake someone up and get them to be a little more careful, it is worth taking the heat for it. There are plenty of people I have paddled with once, because they are not safe.
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Always wanted to run the lochsa at high water... but, I gotta admit, that shit show vibe is why I haven't made the drive.

still, whitewater without bravado? sounds boring!!
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Since you are obviously such an expert on the matter and so much in the know, please tell me more about how this relates to the Camas Creek video?

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I am making reference to jmMcDaniel's post, especially the Lochsa R. Camas Cr. might actually be more dangerous with all of the strainers. I don't like the Dutch courage people get from drinking and the peer pressure of large crowds. Then you always have someone that gets pressured into running things they are not ready for so they don't get called a pussy.


I have been around rivers for a long time. I have seen some bad stuff happen. Now I am 65 and don't do anything difficult. If I can wake someone up and get them to be a little more careful, it is worth taking the heat for it. There are plenty of people I have paddled with once, because they are not safe.
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Always wanted to run the lochsa at high water... but, I gotta admit, that shit show vibe is why I haven't made the drive.
Lochsa is only a shit shot memorial weekend. The rest of the time it is like a small community. Mid may is wonderful.

I haven't had a chance to watch your entire Cascade vid, but man I need to get on that next year!
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the trip that convinced me to get pro loks


Slickhorn, what river is this video? how wide is your frame? and did you get pro loks?

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Old 09-02-2015   #18
 
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Here is one run of the many I was peer pressured into...

https://www.youtube.com/edit?video_i...referrer=watch
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Slickhorn, what river is this video? how wide is your frame? and did you get pro loks?

Thanks, Rich
That is the Cascade River in WA state. One of our late summer gems. That opening sequence is one of my fav rapids I've ever rowed. 4 minute drop!!

That frame was an nrs frame with drop bars, I was still experimenting, this was 36" width I think. I settled with a 32" internal width frame. The tubes are stock legend 12.5' x 22.5" and to give you an idea of geometry, the oar towers are 1" wider on the 32" wide frame compared to the rowing frame on my 14' raft, which has 40" internal width.

I've rowed those legend tubes with a 40" frame and it is, IMO, gawdawful. 32" sounds narrow, but really, you're just allowing for the huge tube diameter.

I did get pro loks, have yet to pop an oar in them in 18 mos, and just ordered a second set to rig with my squaretops, as I am apparently doing my patriotic economic stimulation all at once this summer!!

love pro loks, local WA business, great engineering, I recommend to any one who'll listen!
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I like Boicatr's Cherry Creek video. It is difficult whitewater but it is clean without a lot of logs and woody debris. His cat is unladen and very buoyant in the water. He shows some good rowing technique.
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