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Old 10-24-2007   #1
Steamboat Springs, Colorado
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Can you R2 a 12' raft?

My husband and I are thinking about buying a 12' raft. Can a raft this size be R2ed very easily? Any general comments on R2ing a raft would be great, thanks!

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Old 10-24-2007   #2
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depending on skill level, sure can. my buddy and I R2 the Royal Gorge about 1000- 1200cfs, and other sections of the ARK in a 12ft bucket, what a ride. not sure you would find it "easy" though.
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Old 10-24-2007   #3
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Yup. I've R2'd most of the Arkansas, westwater, the upper gauley and other rivers in a 12-foot raft. R-2ing gets tricker with bigger boats, but I think 12' is a great size for R2ing.
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Old 10-24-2007   #4
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I've R2'ed my 14' down the Poudre (Mish, Lower Mish, Poudre Park, Bridges) a few times. Takes a little getting used to but since the boat will be light, it's much easier to move around.
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Old 10-24-2007   #5
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I have a 13 ft sotar that I R2 on a lot of stuff. It's nice and light and floats high up on the water so it's really maneuverable. I've even loaded it with overnight gear - not a problem. It's also nice since I've also loaded 7 people in there and run class IV. Very versatile boat.
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Old 10-24-2007   #6
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R2ing 12 footers is how i learned the lines to guide the gauley. people regularly R2 on smaller boats such as mini-mes or pumas.
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Old 10-24-2007   #7
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I'm into rafting threads today, what can i say....

A friend and I r2'd a 14ft hyside through Cross Mountain our first time through it.
Your opinion doesn't matter when you're already biased.
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Old 10-24-2007   #8
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I have a 12' Vanguard that is the perfect R-2 machine. I've R-2 and R-1 Browns in my 14' Avon. The trick is to be in sinc with each other and become one with the flow of the river. Spin to win!!
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Old 10-25-2007   #10
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11'8" is the universal cut off. the laws of physics dictate that two individuals weighing more than their equally divided masses will collapse into the center of the raft creating a singularity from which nothing will escape. if, however, the two individuals add an additional mass that exceeds their duplicated masses then the singularity will revert back on itself and undo the previous doing and blow up. there's an equation to prove this but my computer lacks the functionally to illustrate my theorem. suffice it to say that if joe says no, then don't go.


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