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Old 07-07-2005   #1
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Ark rafting questions

I'm taking some friends rafting on this wekend and have a few questions. first, Brown's isn't permitted yet is it? Next, is there a good time to put in on Brown's to avoid the commercial launches? Finally, is it worth continuing through fractions after the numbers? Thanks.


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Old 07-07-2005   #2
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As far as I know you just need the $3.00 parks pass thing each day. Early or Late will avoid SOME of the riverbus traffic.

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Old 07-07-2005   #3
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I've found Brown's practically deserted when I put in after about 3 pm. Launching then will still get you down to Hecla or Stone Bridge with plenty of daylight (unless you're stopping to play lots...). Speaking of playing, depending on the flow, Toilet Bowl is a perfect surf for a raft as well as Heckel and Jeckel Rock.

The Fractions is worth doing and a real kick, run left at Frog Rock to avoid the lethal sieve.

Maybe I'll see you on the river - I'll be rowing a blue Vanguard with yellow oars.

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Old 07-07-2005   #4
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If you leave at around 11 you can get down to the rapids area a head of the commercials as they will stop for lunch and then stop for lunch below toleit and let everyone go by then head on down to either takeout. Thats what works bets for me. The fractions are fun follow andies advice at the seive. sj
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Old 07-07-2005   #5
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Thanks for the beta. Can you tell me what frog rock looks like or where exactly it is? Thanks.
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Old 07-08-2005   #6
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There's a warning sign on river left before frog rock rapid. With the currently low flows I bet that you would naturally choose the right line (that's the one on the left) because it's the only one with enough water in it to get a raft down.
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is it worth going through the fractions?
No, I would probably skip the fractions at these water levels. if you do go watch out for frog rock. A previous post leads you to beleive that the water all goes left at frog rock (there by aoiding the death slot). That isn't the case at this level. 75% of the water goes to the right side a (bad side). you will probably have to push your boat down the left side.
do the numbers and call it a day.
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Old 07-08-2005   #8
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can frog rock be scouted from the gravel road when running shuttle? if so, are there any distinguishing characteristics to watch for that would identify the pull off when driving upstream from the BV play wave/takeout?

possibly doing the RR bridge to BV run for the first time this w/e, and would like to take a look before putting on if possible. i've heard some folks speak of a put-in at or directly below frog rock, but not certain of that. thanks in advance for any info.
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Frog Rock is "eay" class on the right side.....
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you might want to avoid the right side of frog rock.

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