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Old 04-12-2005   #11
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Look to Steamboat and Blue Sky West for Class IV boating in May and April. Depending on flows, we'll be rafting Cross Mountain Canyon on the Yampa River all throughout. Depending on snowmelt, it may be to high, over 4500 cfs for us to run commercially. We're running it now in April commercially

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Thanks there anything closer to Colorado Springs though? within 2 hrs? sorry to be a pain

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Old 04-12-2005   #13
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Just look under "Raft Trips" in the Yellow Pages and start calling all those toll-free numbers up in the Arkansas Valley. In late May the Ark starts hitting the teens on average. Zach's (ZBaird's) thinking of the Class III creekbed it was last May at 600 cfs and it ain't going to be like that this year unless the weather stays super cold. You're bound to find someone that'll be running commercially then. There should be a kick-butt runoff on the Ark this year to boot so who knows - it may be running a couple of grand by then...

Daily flows at Parkdale:

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Old 04-13-2005   #14
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andy, still feeling like sh*t?? the gorge does get rockin at higher water and the consequence factor is class four ,but most of the moves and rapids remain class 3. when she said " least class 4" and even suggested gore, i figured she was a little more experienced and looking for something more challenging. remember, we are talking commercial trip here, not you at the oars. J/K. lets have a meeting some night this week and make sure that lid is safe.

CCM, all depends on where you are. if you have run browns canyon or any other real straight forward class3 trip a time or two then the gorge is a step up, will be very exciting, perhaps a little spooky at high water , and will definitely feel like class 4 if you swim. pine creek/ numbers is more technical and has a few more demanding moves...... gore is another step up. if you feel like you know your way around a raft, are in good shape, strong swimmer, and want some fairly gnarly action, look to raft gore. i think timberline, and maybe others, offer a class 4 package , with portages( short and fairly easy) of the 2 class 5's, as well as the full on 5 package. the guide decides on river what you will and wont run according to how he feels about the crew/level. if none of this makes sense to you, forget about it all, including gore and take andys advice to call the 800 #'s on the ark.[/quote]
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Timberlinetours looks great! ( They have a trip class 4+ for $74 at the end of may

Also, Clear Creek CO. ( will have a full day trip at the end of may in Gore Canyon

Thank for all your help everyone

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