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Old 07-30-2015   #31
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FWIW I like 9 ft oars for both my 14 1/2 ' that I use to have and the 13' that I have now. I tried using some 8.5 ft oars of my brothers and it seemed like I could feel the weight difference. Then I used them on a multiday trip and found that I get better leverage with the longer 9 ft oar. I haven't used 9.5 footers so who knows, maybe I would like them even better.

BUT I use the same frame. Oar length will have to do with how high the lock is set above the water.

Does the place you are buying the gear from rent or have used stuff? Maybe they would let you try different lengths before the purchase.

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Old 07-30-2015   #32
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If the two rafts have the same warranty etc etc but the main diff is length and D-rings, I would go with the 14 footer. You can always glue more D-rings on a raft right?

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Old 07-30-2015   #33
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For fishing I like bigger tubes for sure. And 9 foot oars. I would think.
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Old 07-30-2015   #34
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The warranties are the same, there is just the slight difference in tube diameter and width, and the extra 6 inches length. I was thinking 9 foot sounded better, so I will see about having them hold those for me instead. It doesn't sound like the type of place to have rentals or used equipment, but I do have friends around here with rafts and a place I have rented a raft several times. I could see what size oars they all use.

It didn't cross my mind to just add d-rings.
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Old 09-01-2015   #35
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What do you guys think about old Riken Boats from the 80s? How long is that glue rated to last? If well maintained and properly stored... how long is "forever"
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Old 09-01-2015   #36
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I wanted to say thanks again and share our new toy with everyone who helped me figure things out. We ended up going to the 14 ft, and I'm very glad you pushed me that way. Water isn't great right now, but we have had it out once and plan to float this weekend. I'm really looking forward to the water coming up again with the snow melt soon!

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Old 09-02-2015   #37
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Old rafts

Greetings All. I'm way late on this thread, but I'll add a nickel's worth.
i helped a friend look for a 12-14' boat this summer and looked at several Avons. One (Scout I think) literally looked like it just came out of the box, as it had been garaged for many years. Some on this thread may recall that the fellow initially asked around $9000 for it, but later came down, though it was still a pricey. Several of the others were 80s vintage boats and had not been well taken care of. D-rings, handles, and re-furbishing/replacing valves are just tlc work, but when the material is truly worn to hell, you can't do much. One boat's material felt a bit like old sandpaper and not even a heavy bath of 303 would bring it back. I think the state of the hypalon or pvc is one key to look at. I've also seen poorly cared for pvc boats that had cracks in the material. As a few here have commented, wait/go for a bailer. Lots of commercial companies are cycling out boats as the season winds down, some of which are in reasonable shape.
Congratulations on your new boat. Looks great!

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