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Old 05-14-2014   #11
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So - anyone have a suggestion on a good bug suit they are happy with?

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Old 05-14-2014   #12
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I've read good things about thermacell (follow instructions -- can take 15 minutes to be effective). However, there is an acknowledged altitude issue for some of their products beginning around 4,500', and Sand Wash (a bit over that) is just high enough to make me wonder. Some of their products don't have that issue (I think the ones you light with a match). As said, I've "read" good things (and not just from the manufacturer), but no personal experience -- I'm thinking about it -- I too am on a mid-June Deso. A thermacell in the middle of the raft while rigging might just work.
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Old 05-14-2014   #13
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Iíve had great luck with Thermacells even at altitude.* Put one in the kitchen area and you are pretty much good to go.


We almost always do June trips, just the nature of having teachers and people from different parts of the country in our crew.* Yes, the bugs are Alaska/Canada type thick.** Personally, I find them to be more swarming than biting type but you get some bites.** Use some permethrin (do it yourself BugsAway) on your clothes beforehand and I particularly like Ultrathon by 3M.*** Headnet is about all the further Iíve gone but those can get annoying I usually just deal with it.*** Those little fan things with the repellent in them work ok for the kids too.


Iíve never gone without getting a cabin or at least sleeping in the back of the car.** *Not too big an issue once you are out on the water but if you try to camp before Jack Creek they are still pretty brutal.* After JC, you tend to get more biting flies and worst of the mosquitoes dies out.** Sometimes I take some of those bug candles too for around the kitchen.* Thermacells are great though and cheap.
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Old 05-14-2014   #14
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Would the Thermacells work on yellow jackets? We've never had big issues with them on the Main Salmon, but all those reports of killer swarms from last summer has me thinking????

I found a pull over bug jacket with a hood that you could cinch closed around the face. I wore that, with long pants and socks & shoes. A bug jacket when it's hot really sucks. It keeps them from biting, but the constant buzzing around my head & face made me crazy.
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Old 05-15-2014   #15
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No idea on wasps, etc. Sorry, never used one in a place with enough to gauge it.
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Old 05-15-2014   #16
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Bugs on Ladore in June bad as Deso?

I have Ladore trip first week of June. Are the notorious Deso bugs as bad up river during the same time frame?
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Old 05-15-2014   #17
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Is it unheard of to get a motel in Roosevelt or vernal to avoid the bugs at sand wash and show up fully rigged and put in ASAP?
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Bad idea! If you show up late and get a late start you'll camp right in the worst of it. Life is fine in the bug houses and the bugs are not as bad in the morning as they are in the evening.

Some times the rangers will get you checked in the night before and you can haul ass in the morning. Get an early start and row your brains out the first day!

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Is it unheard of to get a motel in Roosevelt or vernal to avoid the bugs at sand wash and show up fully rigged and put in ASAP?
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Old 05-15-2014   #19
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It can be done. Long morning drive but much of it is paved now.

Not sure I would want my rig bouncing around on that dirt road myself. A good portion of the road is in a flood basin, i.e. wash; they grade it regularly but its still a rough road for inflated rubber. As well there is not a classic ramp so you would still need to do a partial derig to get the raft in the water. Its a long thick muddy shallows at the put-in so driving the trailer far enough into the river to float your rig is unlikely.

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Old 05-15-2014   #20
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It is totally possible to do that. A few years ago the majority of our group camped at Sand Wash. A friend and his family stayed in Roosevelt and met us in the morning at the put in with their boat rigged and on their trailer. The road is bumpy, but I know of many people who have traveled it, including me, with rigged boats on their trailers. It shouldn't be a problem to get your boat in the water if you have enough people to help. Get an early start. Have a great trip!

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