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Old 04-11-2012   #11
Glenwood Springs, Colorado
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I went 15' for my family of 4. Great all around size for day trips and multiday trips. I went from a 14' to a 15, "personally" I felt the the 15 would give me the best of both worlds since I don't have the luxury of multiple boats, and have been happy with my decision. The nrs e 15 turned out great because of the extra width. 4 bay nrs frame: trex bench with drop bag (foldable table for overnighters) in the front, cooler with the foot bar as the rear supporting bar, cockpit, and drybox behind has worked well so far.

Just my $.02

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Old 04-12-2012   #12
welch, Oklahoma
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I have 6 rafts from 11 ft to 20 ft and if I had to choose one it would be mt 143-d arie
Cable of big water great gear boat and fun u-paddle it boat . I also like my 20ft maravi raft but a little tight and low water . All of the info in the preceding post are good advice and look at the boats on the rivers you float and that should help

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Old 04-12-2012   #13
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I started with a 16' Maravia back in '04 for my family of four. My girls were 6mo and 1.5yo. They're now 8 and 10. We just sold it to buy a newer Aire 156 (still trying to decide between E and R).

I completely agree about getting the 16' boat--especially if your old 13' is serviceable for lower flows or a day paddle-boat trip for just the 4 of you.

I love having the 16' boat for taking friends and kids' friends.

We added an Aire Trib 13' boat a couple of years ago for day trips. I couldn't imagine having a boat that small for a one-and-only boat.

Buddy of mine has a single Aire 143D as their only boat for a family of four + 1 lab. They don't do a lot of overnights, and it works great for them.

That said, 15' is not much smaller, so in the end, buy whatever fits best for your local rivers.
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Old 04-12-2012   #14
Missoula, Montana
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I would highly recommend the Maravia Williwaw 1.5, which is 15 feet. I personally have the Williwaw 1 (which is 14 feet) but I routinly do multiday trips with people who have the 1.5. The 1.5 has much more room, yet its still very managable when it comes to transportation and, of course, navigation. It can easily take 4 people and gear on a multiday trip. Plus, Maravia quality is hard to beat.
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Old 04-12-2012   #15
Thronton, Colorado
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Since you already have a 13 footer, I'd go with a 16 footer for the multi day trips.

If you are looking to replace the 13 footer, then I guess it depends on how you intend to use it. I have a 14 footer, and 7 day trips are no problem with it. No dogs, but I do have a family of four. The 14 footer is also great for day trips on the Ark, the Eagle, etc. nice all around size IMO.

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