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Old 08-01-2013   #21
Lakewood, Colorado
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I think the bigger question is whether this new economy is sustainable. We outsource anything that can be done more cheaply elsewhere and it won't be long until that includes many of the service jobs that support us now. I just read an article about corporations outsourcing their entire accounting departments to India. The trend seems inevitable and I think the end result is a global wage/standard of living. Wages are rising in the manufacturing countries; we'll meet the exporters somewhere in the middle. From a global perspective maybe that's not such a bad thing, but from the U.S. perspective, it sure looks like we gave up a lot of universal long term benefit for some short term profit for the wealthy.

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Old 08-01-2013   #22
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Made in the USA is a great idea that most Americans are not willing to pay for. There may be a few (ones posting on this very thread) but most people simply look at the bottom dollar, not the true and hidden costs of the cheaper product. The scary thing is that many imported items still cost a lot. A great book about this concept is The Walmart Effect. As for the NRS Patriot, pay close attention to the wording "with Made-in-USA material. " My guess it that the boat is still build south of the border. I don't blame NRS, they are just being competitive.


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Old 08-01-2013   #23
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For me it's about being able to get the stuff I want & need to run rivers. NRS has some of the stuff I want & need to run I buy it. Either directly from them, from REI, or from my local whitewater shop. I can try on their paddle jackets & pants at REI, and they fit, so I buy them. Some products I get from cottage industry vendors like SNS, SolGear, Wilderness Logics, Strapworks, etc. NRS frames work for me, and since I don't have a top notch custom frame builder anywhere near me, I order from NRS. If there was a local company building frames, and sewing Gore-tex paddle clothing then maybe I'd shop with them, but there's not, so NRS gets some (not all) of my business.
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Old 08-01-2013   #24
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LOVE the new economy:

Why That New Shirt From Gap Is Unbelievably Priceless

Awww, SNAP!

Or wait, why don't you ask McDonalds about economics? They're really good at budgeting....

Economics, what kind of made up crap is that?

Forget Everything You Learned In Economics. You Were Totally Lied To.
I am a river, babe - I've got plenty of time, I don't know where I'm going, I'm just following the lines..... - "We are water" by Shaye
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Old 08-06-2013   #25
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Economics, what kind of made up crap is that?

Forget Everything You Learned In Economics. You Were Totally Lied To.
Evidently these guys don't understand that taxes are part of Economics. From the guys at NPR's Money Matters, how economics can easily reduce carbon emissions:

Episode 472: The One-Page Plan To Fix Global Warming : Planet Money : NPR
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Old 08-06-2013   #26
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Ok im lookimg for a rescue pfd. Any leads?

Who's your monkey?
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