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Old 05-08-2015   #11
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I've worried about my down bag getting wet for 40 years - never happened, so I'm working not worrying about it any more. A 32 deg down bag weighs almost nothing and has been great for me. I use potable aqua, drink a lot of tea, and skip the filter. I like the megamid - roomy, simple, and the places you describe all have enough shelter that wind has never been problem for me. Grand Canyon & S Utah - takes more creativity. Started carrying a 4 oz 3mil x 8 x 1 ft or so ground cloth ($11 Frost King Window insulation with grommet added to the corners) last year - got me through a rainy week on the Selway with no other shelter (barely). A folding bucket has been really useful for settling water if you suspect silty water. Fewer clothes than you think you need (always a puffy jacket, though). I use the turkey roaster for a fire pan and a 1 gal plastic screw top container for a groover (lasts a week or so, I usually carry food in an unused one so I have a spare). I get mine from a massage therapist friend (massage oil comes in them) & I think you can also find them at brewing supply stores. I've heard them called pickle jars.

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Old 05-08-2015   #12
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Originally Posted by Phil U. View Post
LL used to have a great how to on a breakdown fire pan. Couldn't find it on their site just now.
Here ya go.

Self Support Kayak Camping

I have built and used both the firepan and Groover. But truth be known, its why better to just fold up a couple turkey pans and put them on rocks... Still use the groover.

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Old 05-08-2015   #13
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Aqua Mira is another good option. Tastes better but costs a lot more in the long run. Kills more than any other method but Idaho has some comparatively clean water anyways.

The Megalite has always caught major wind for us. Such a significant surface area; I do know friends who have adapted them with more tie outs. Others have no issue. Its not really an issue until you start trying to squeeze more than two people into them though as the walls push in on the folks closest to them. I wish they would have kept the old design instead of the lighter sil material as they didn't sag and flap as much. I think they had similar volume but the new ones obviously weigh less.

You could also look into reviews at places like backpacking light, etc. The lightness may not be as major a factor but its often correlated with volume. Gear has come a long way in the last decade.

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