Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-06-2013   #11
Highland Ranch, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2009
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 41
Easy answer

Carry both.

hollek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2013   #12
KSC's Avatar
Boulder, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2003
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,032
I've thought about -adding- a folding knife to my pfd as a backup and for other uses, but I would -not- take away the external knife. A few of my thoughts, purely based on empirical experiences of myself and others:

Roy's is the classic, but a recent story that's a reminder of why an easily accessible knife is good: good boater was doing a class IV run and got randomly snagged by a rope buried just under the surface while boating downstream. It's unlucky, but not that far fetched on popular runs. I gather that he managed to grab a tree branch with one hand to keep himself stable. With the other hand he grabbed his knife, but couldn't get a good angle on the rope to cut it.

So, he decided to put the knife back in the sheath to switch hands. He said he had the NRS Pilot knife, which stays very secure in the sheath, but apparently is hard to put back in the sheath with one hand (disclaimer: I've never never used one) and was having a lot of trouble. Anyway, eventually the force of his boat or something freed the rope and his boat and he was released without having to cut it, but obviously the situation could have gone downhill fast.

I've been using the blunt tip Bear Claw with serrated edge and haven't found a good enough reason to convince me to switch yet. I seem to lose one just about every year, which sucks, but I just consider it the price of admission. I've gotten good at finding deals at hunting stores. I'm still reluctant to tie the knife to a leash - I know some people claim w/ the proper length leash it's pretty safe, but I've had some violent hole rides and I don't like the idea of a knife flopping around attached to me.

With the Bear Claw, my casual observation is that taking it in and out of the sheath a lot wears down the tightness of the connection so I try to minimize the amount of times I take it out. Running waterfalls also seems to be a great way to lose your knife, as is climbing around on cliffs or on top of logs. I've also learned that going into salt water and not washing off your knife afterwards is a great way to ruin it. By exercising a few precautions you can keep your knife around a bit longer.

KSC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2013   #13
CBrown's Avatar
Evergreen, Colorado
Paddling Since: '92
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 347
I was tangled in a rope on SlaughterHouse years ago while towing a boat across the river after a friend had taken a swim. It was a very precarious situation and I did not have my knife on me cause I used it for some other purpose(not rescue oriented).
As I was kinda drowning out in the middle of the river a fellow boater approached me from upstream and handed off a foldable knife to me. I took a deep breath went underwater, unfolded the knife and cut the rope off my arm. It was a sketchy situation but was resolved quickly with heads up thinking from another boater on scene.

I learned:
A. Never use your rescue knife for anything other than rescue.
B. Don't fuck around with towing a boat using a throw bag and not managing the slack properly.
C. Having multiple knives on ones person is a good idea whether running rapids or boating Confluence in the dark after a flood.
"We're gonna need a bigger boat"
CBrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2013   #14
Westminster, Colorado
Paddling Since: 1999
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 524
I'm not an instructor, but a quote from one of my past instructors stuck with me. I was only carrying a foldable knife in the PFD pocket at the time. He asked me if I could stand in the shower on cold for 10-15 minutes, and then remove and open the knife one-handed. I couldn't confidently say yes, so I added the fixed blade back to the outside again. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2013   #15
East of the Pine beatle, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,362
Originally Posted by hollek View Post
Carry both.

Osseous is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2013   #16
Renaissance Redneck
LSB's Avatar
Huson, Montana
Paddling Since: 1988
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 986
Another vote for the Bear Claw. And I don't use it for anything else. It doesn't spread PBJ or cut cheese worth a shit anyway.
"You're gonna be doin a lot of doobie rolling when youre LIVIN IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER"
LSB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2013   #17
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 75
I've got the benchmade 8 rescue hook con plastic sheath and snap lanyard attached to the vest. The pocket houses a pointed spyderco folding knife. I figure 90% of any rescue related cuts can be done with the hook. I also spend most of my time on a riverboard, so I don't like the idea of laying belly down on a knife.
phillersk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2013   #18
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 332
Now that looks like a tool that is a step up.
oarboatman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013   #19
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 332
Does anyone else have a rescue hook they have and like?
oarboatman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013   #20
adgeiser's Avatar
Denver,, exhaustion
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 578
I am a bit of a knife lover and as such have quit a few.

First; out of all of my knives i only have one that is serrated... my river knife.
i would not carry a river knife that is not serrated, it is just extra insurance.

Second; if you choose to carry a folder make sure that you get a 'dive knife', you want stainless steel, the steel will not rust (as easily). Spyderco makes a few good ones. If you go with a folder make sure that you do proper maintenance on it. Take it out and dry it properly, periodically clean and oil it. It would suck to need it and not be able to open the thing.

I use a fixed blade NRS, i believe in keeping it as simple as possible in an emergency situation. I do like the bearclaw.

as far as rescue hooks go, they do what they do well but are nowhere near as versatile as a knife.

"We should restore the practice of dueling. It might improve manners around here" -Edward Abbey
adgeiser is offline   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Topic Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Found river knife on Westwater below Little D crforbes11 Lost & Found 0 10-08-2013 03:56 PM
River Knife for Astral Green Jacket? lmyers Kayaking | Gear Talk 28 04-04-2013 04:47 PM
Paddler/Rescue River Knife Design WhiteLightning Whitewater Kayaking 15 08-04-2009 11:47 PM
Cool River Knife WhiteLightning Kayaking | Gear Talk 17 03-29-2009 09:09 PM
leash for river knife? Jay H Whitewater Kayaking 16 05-29-2008 07:26 PM

» Classified Ads
Gott - Rubbermaid coolers

posted by stony2275

I have 3 Gott Rubbermaid coolers for sale. 60 Quart in...

Badfish MCIT 11'6"

posted by Krynn

Used one season, great condition Included Backpack Hand...

Fall Mountain Handcraft...

posted by YesitsMinty

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities

Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:28 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.