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Old 02-18-2015   #11
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BZN, Montana
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Weighted lottery would be cool but it's not really that hard to get on most of these trips. Selway is probably the hardest but even that is simple if you pay for the snow machine ride. I've been invited on every other trip multiple times in the past 5 years without having a super tight permit group I apply with. Mix it up with the community, be a good boating partner on day trips and the rest will work itself out.

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Old 02-18-2015   #12
Idaho Falls, Idaho
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Kengore- you are right on the money. Nothing more fair than equal chances of drawing a permit. Any time one group of applicants is favored (with points or something similar), by default another group is discriminated against. Points work against new boaters, or anyone who drops out of the initial group of applicants when there is high demand for permits. I'll take a random draw any day over points of any sort!

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Old 02-18-2015   #13
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I think a weighted lotto is a terrible idea.. Like said before this is a system where there are just so many loosers it doesnt really help that much because they all also get a point ... yeah you might get a permit finally in lets say in 5 or ten years... Then to draw again you are really screwed because in ten years only three hundred or so a year have been knocked down while the other 8 or 9,000 now have ten times the odds you do.. think 15 or 20 years down the road.. when your kids might want to apply to the river the odds of them drawing would be terrible... well sorry imposible... you still have 6000 people left that havent drawn but have 20 prefrence points or 20 times the odds. and thats just the top tier... they would be behind 15 more years of applicants..

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