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Old 06-09-2013   #11
Cottonwood, Arizona
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OP was about self-support. I guess if you're a true badass you can put a cooler and boxes in a self-supported boat

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Old 06-10-2013   #12
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Yeah, this is kayak self support, so no coolers, ammo boxes, ribeyes, or lobsters.

I'm paddling a Remix XP10 so I have a dry compartment in the back separated from the cockpit by a minicell wall (4" minicell?). So I can put my food in the dry hatch, but I'm concerned about the mice chewing thru the wall then thru the dry bags into the food. Someone had a brilliant idea of leaving the boat on an incline and putting water in there so the wall is totally covered. Others have covered the foam wall with plexiglass, I was also considering fiberglass.

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Old 06-10-2013   #13
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Just drybag your stuff, and put it in the storage hatch every night, with the lid closed. I haven't seen them go through the foam yet, and haven't had problems with a rubber hatch cover keeping animals out. Just make sure to remove all wrappers from your PFD pockets.

The ravens are bold thieves, and clever with drybags not stowed in the compartment.
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Old 06-10-2013   #14
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OP was about self-support. I guess if you're a true badass you can put a cooler and boxes in a self-supported boat
Oops. My bad. Carry on...
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Old 06-10-2013   #15
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You can always get a liner for the inside of your dry bag, and just use it at night as a separate container. These guys have made such bags for years for different species, this one should do the trick for the sharp toothed and clawed animals you are concerned about, with the added benefit that they don't add any real bulk or weight to your trip:

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Old 06-10-2013   #16
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As a heads up, the two trips I have done so far in the GC have both experienced ring tails trying to loot the kitchen. They seem to be attracted to shiny cooking equipment and not the food, though.

Mice weren't a major issue either time, including a winter trip. That said, we had dry boxes and coolers to hide food so I am not certain how they will be with a kayak self-support trip.

Ravens are diligent creatures and show a lot of tenacity. We got in the habit of spraying them with water canons by day 3 this last trip. They seem to be an issue right when you arrive in camp or not at all, from my experience. Never known them to raid camp at night so being vigilant while awake should be enough.

Have a great trip.


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