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Old 07-26-2016   #11
 
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Yeah, thanks for the heads up. You just saved us some trouble. I saw fire ban, and literally sent an email saying leave wood and fire pan at home.

That said, the implication in case of emergency is that the fire ban does not apply or at least I will not be ticketed. That is to say, if I needed to send out smoke signals and I accidentally started a wildfire, then I wouldn't be charged with arson? Seems more likely that rules are the rules; no exceptions.

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Old 07-26-2016   #12
 
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Carrying fire pan

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Hi Guys!

It is Colorado State Law that requires you to carry a fire pan even during a ban. It can be used in case of an emergency, hypothermia, or a signal fire if you were to need one. We do not require you to carry wood if you are not going to use it. Mesa County has also issued a Stage 1 Fire ban which applies to all BLM land in Mesa County.
For our June Yampa trip I found it very interesting that this year (June 2016) the Dinosaur NPS regs did not require us to carry a firepan if we did not plan on having a fire.
We left the big Cambridge pan in the truck. Too hot for a fire and grillin'.
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Old 07-26-2016   #13
 
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minimal qualifying firepan

From the Colorado BLM regulations...

f. a durable metal fire pan at least 12 inches in diameter with at least a 2 inch lip around its outer edge and sufficient to contain fire and remains. Fire pans must be carried on all trips even if stoves are being used for cooking. All fires must be contained in the fire pan. Fire blankets under fire pans are recommended to facilitate total ash removal.

I found two nesting cake pans that meet the above regulations 12" dia. x 2" lip.
I use them during fire bans to avoid extra weight that won't be used. Look in the cake decorating section of Joanne's or Michelle's craft stores.
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Old 07-26-2016   #14
 
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I have always wondered if agency regulations are counterproductive in some of these instances. In this case, it sounds like the state, requires fire pans even during bans. Makes me wonder how many crews end up having fires because they had to carry the gear despite the ban? Could be none but I could see a chance it would encourage some behaviors in the worst offenders.

On the other hand, allowing people not to carry them may increase the fire pits the agency spent so long creating policy to prevent (along side surface poop and "prayer flags" ). Don't miss those days. Have vivid memories of some nasty scenes at the Cottonwood sites.

Never likely to know but makes me curious.

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