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Old 01-04-2017   #1
 
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Federal Land Give-Away Starts

Just in case anyone doubted, the first move by our new congress to begin giving away or saelling off Federal lands has begun. The first thing they've done is to prevent any discussion of what the fiscal impacts of land divestment. This basically prevents any kind of cost-benefit analysis from being part of the decision.

House GOP rules change will make it easier to sell off federal land

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...Under current Congressional Budget Office accounting rules, any transfer of federal land that generates revenue for the U.S. Treasury whether through energy extraction, logging, grazing or other activities has a cost. If lawmakers wanted to give such land to a state, local government or tribe, they would have to account for that loss in expected cash flow.

Bishop authored language in the new rules package that would overturn that requirment, saying any such transfers shall not be considered as providing new budget authority, decreasing revenues, increasing mandatory spending, or increasing outlays.
This is from the party that claims to be fiscally conservative and think government should be run like a business. No business would fail to consider the value of any asset before divesting that asset.

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Been trying to shine light on this as well, here and the hunting community. Utah is going to be a focal point, as well as Nevada. They have already resurrected old bills and brought them to committee. Anyone interested in fair and equitable access to public lands should be roused to action by now. Attempts will be made, it will just be a matter of how transparent they will be.
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Lake County, Montana looking at proposing 60,000 acres

Lake County in Montana held a meeting in December to discuss transferring management of 60,000 acres of Swan Valley national lands to Montana for the purpose of producing income for the Lake County Conservation District. We need to all weigh in on this issue as it poses a very real threat to our long term recreational use of federal lands.

A group called the American Lands Council is dedicated to pushing for small pilot projects that transfer management of public lands to the states. This is an initial step towards full transfer and eventual privatization.
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Just in case anyone doubted, the first move by our new congress to begin giving away or saelling off Federal lands has begun. The first thing they've done is to prevent any discussion of what the fiscal impacts of land divestment. This basically prevents any kind of cost-benefit analysis from being part of the decision.

House GOP rules change will make it easier to sell off federal land



This is from the party that claims to be fiscally conservative and think government should be run like a business. No business would fail to consider the value of any asset before divesting that asset.

-AH
So you're against allowing grazing and energy extraction on the land but if the feds want to sell you want to take into consideration said value? The land is only costing the federal govt money if we don't allow use on it. Why not sell and use the money to pay down debt. No reason the feds should own almost 90% of NV or any other state.
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So you're against allowing grazing and energy extraction on the land but if the feds want to sell you want to take into consideration said value? The land is only costing the federal govt money if we don't allow use on it. Why not sell and use the money to pay down debt. No reason the feds should own almost 90% of NV or any other state.
I don't see anyone on this thread taking a position that grazing and energy extraction should be eliminated on federal lands.
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Why not sell and use the money to pay down debt. No reason the feds should own almost 90% of NV or any other state.
personally I feel like the public lands are mine, as a public land owner. if, however, we pass them first to the state and then to private hands, we will lose access to our rivers, our hunting lands, and OUR lands as Americans...
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I'll say it. fuck using public lands for energy extraction and I'm still on the fence about the grazing issue but leaning toward NOT. Allowing private businesses to trash public lands to make a profit is absurd. And the government selling these public lands to the same businesses is fuct. Why would we sell our public lands to big oil?? to repay debt...bullshit. From a business perspective this makes no sense at all. For example if i owed a million dollars and had land worth a fraction of that, selling it would only put me in a worse position.

I have to go read to a cute 6 year old....one of the people that will be most effected by these atrocities your governing body is committing. We are in for some very devastating times. I believe the next four years will be disastrous to this country and its citizens and the environment. Please get your greedy heads out of your asses and realize we need to make a change and start co-existing with this planet before it kills us in revolt. We are blessed with a country full of possibility please open your eyes.
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Oh and Eff Nevada too (sorry to my friends that live there but) In on of the largest human caused environmental disasters in the history of man we screwed that up a long time ago
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But trumps son likes to hunt and fish!

LOL That is what my trumpette friends said to defend the orange dictator in discussions of this exact topic.....

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