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Old 05-10-2012   #41
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The main page photo of a swimming pool to practice rolls in just changed my mind. Kayakers need their own forum for their sick photos!!

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Old 05-10-2012   #42
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The main page photo of a swimming pool to practice rolls in just changed my mind. Kayakers need their own forum for their sick photos!!
Ouch - Briana, did you post that just to rag on kayakers? There might be more water in that pool than most of the rivers this season...

Thanks for reminding me though; all hear this: the "totally subjective" thread's just been reopened now that the shitstorm in a teapot has died down. Let's see some more good hucking and if you're going to post photos of rafts, here are some totally subjective guidelines that probably won't be enforcecd: you should a) not be able to see a reflection on the water, or B ) be able to see the bottom of the raft, or c) show scenery either behind the raft, or sitting on the raft, that'll make folks say "wow!" If you want to show folks how you've tricked out your raft, that's great, we're all glad to know it, and there's a thread for that somewhere. If I could find it, I'd link it.

About splitting the Buzz up, this topic's been brought up every couple of years and generally folks come to the consensus that there is common interest in enough topics and that there are enough folks who both kayak AND raft to keep it all in a "boater's" forum because, after all, we're all boaters. This may be changing - let's hear some more of what folks think about it? I like what Jamie D has to say and think that anytime someone with 20 posts in 8 years on the Buzz says something, it's probably worth reading.

So what if you had to go through a little series of check boxes when you post, asking if its rafting related, kayaking related, or both, would folks be willing to o that? What about checking a box for the geographic region the post is related? We're getting lots of Southeasterners and Northwesterners on the site these days - how about a geographic filter? What about a place for fishing-related stuff?

EDIT 5/11/12 - we've already got a little check box for tags allowing the OP to tell whether the thread is about kayaking, rafting, SUP, or fishing. By the way I blew past that putting up a thread the other day, seems like it should that be a mandatory check box for anyone starting a thread. This will allow filtering of threads so folks can see all posts related to specific aspects of boating. - END EDIT

I'm not promising anything, especially soon, but there's some stuff being kicked around behind the scenes that this discussion can contribute to.

Let's hear some more thoughts.



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Old 05-10-2012   #43
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If you want to show folks how you've tricked out your raft, that's great, we're all glad to know it, and there's a thread for that somewhere. If I could find it, I'd link it.
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Old 05-10-2012   #44
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i'll put in my vote for a rafting section. i think the need is there ,at this point too and it would make a better site for both kayakers and rafters. i'm not sure anything beyond that is really needed though....."keep it simple ,stupid."

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Originally Posted by upshitscreek View Post
."keep it simple ,stupid.":
KISS....great advice;hurts my feelings everytime
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Old 05-10-2012   #46
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separate rafting and kayaking sections while still maintaining the normal front page would be great! instead of boaters forum we could have rafters and kayakers forums. lets make it happen
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Old 05-11-2012   #47
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Come on, all of these solutions blow. Keep it simple stupid means that you just go back and kick everyone off that joined any later than 3/5/07 and then lock the forum to any outsiders. We wouldn't want any new blood in here and we definitely wouldn't any new ideas. I mean if two consenting adult rafters get married and we LET them, it totally means that my marriage to a kayaker is going to make me go to hell automatically.k
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Old 05-11-2012   #48
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I would say just start a rafters buzz forum off to the left. It is still mountain buzz, but they can go there with all their questions about ice, and taking new born babies on Gore at high water.
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We do not split each other up on the rivers so why should we do it on the Buzz. It would be strange to see rafters camping on one side of the river and kayakers on the other side.
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Old 05-11-2012   #50
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None of the many wonderful boaters I have met on Mountainbuzz cared at all who was rafting and who was kayaking, especially at high water, when we are just glad to have someone to run with. It's the influx of class III newbies which Jamie pointed out. Nothing against that crew but they are not searching for old threads before posting and cluttering the buzz with those crazy (and anal) raft setup questions that I could never even imagine.

I met more great boaters in my first hour on this website than the previous 20 years of boating. We have shared weekends, shuttles, and cold beer from my (drained) cooler. So, Andy, please keep Trip Planner mixed company and just put something to encourage people to search old threads before starting new ones.

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