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Old 06-24-2012   #1
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Want smaller govt? Get ready for more unemployment

Unemployment Rate Without Government Cuts: 7.1% - Real Time Economics - WSJ

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Old 06-26-2012   #2
 
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Yep that does sound about right. I had been working for the forest service laying out thinning and reforestation projects as well as performing contract inspection. These projects go out to bid and employ lots of people. With congress being unable to approve our budget many of these "Shovel ready projects" have been shelved or since we did not have a budget until well into our field season we were unable to get the work that we had scheduled done. For reforestation projects we contract out 1) Site prep 2) Snow plowing (got to chase the snow around so the trees have enough water and cool tamps to get established) 3)The planting crews. That employes alot of people. And with less time to try and accomplish the same tasks we also had our overtime cut.... Which when you only make about 20K a year and you are trying to pay off college loans makes it financially impossible to continue in that job.

Oh and thinning and fuels reduction is ALOT cheaper than fighting fires leaves you with alot less damage to the ecosystem. Not that it stops them from happening. It just prevents them from being out of control crown fires that that require way more resources and leave a moon scape that then runs into our rivers and reservours costing even more money in restoration and water treatment.

On the positive side (haha) with the beetle kill and all the fires in CO, our clear cuts are looking GOOD!

There are alot of good hard working people that are government employees. Many of use went into careers because we believed in what we are doing and made alot of sacrifices such as low pay so we could do something that will benifit our country and our environment. Most of use are not useless douche bags like our senators and congress.

And remember most of the cuts in government fall on the hardest working and least paid people, the ones who actually are getting the work done. More cuts in gov will just result in more chiefs and less indians in a system that already has way to many chiefs. Yeah i had 8 different bosses, then I quit.

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Yep that does sound about right. I had been working for the forest service laying out thinning and reforestation projects as well as performing contract inspection. These projects go out to bid and employ lots of people. With congress being unable to approve our budget many of these "Shovel ready projects" have been shelved or since we did not have a budget until well into our field season we were unable to get the work that we had scheduled done. For reforestation projects we contract out 1) Site prep 2) Snow plowing (got to chase the snow around so the trees have enough water and cool tamps to get established) 3)The planting crews. That employes alot of people. And with less time to try and accomplish the same tasks we also had our overtime cut.... Which when you only make about 20K a year and you are trying to pay off college loans makes it financially impossible to continue in that job.

Oh and thinning and fuels reduction is ALOT cheaper than fighting fires leaves you with alot less damage to the ecosystem. Not that it stops them from happening. It just prevents them from being out of control crown fires that that require way more resources and leave a moon scape that then runs into our rivers and reservours costing even more money in restoration and water treatment.

On the positive side (haha) with the beetle kill and all the fires in CO, our clear cuts are looking GOOD!

There are alot of good hard working people that are government employees. Many of use went into careers because we believed in what we are doing and made alot of sacrifices such as low pay so we could do something that will benifit our country and our environment. Most of use are not useless douche bags like our senators and congress.

And remember most of the cuts in government fall on the hardest working and least paid people, the ones who actually are getting the work done. More cuts in gov will just result in more chiefs and less indians in a system that already has way to many chiefs. Yeah i had 8 different bosses, then I quit.

Great post treehugger.
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