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Old 10-15-2008   #21
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Anyone know how long it takes them to get new registrations up? As of now my registration has not been listed (just changed from Illinois) but I have a reciept and everything.
You got registered prior to the 6th, right? I read that it should only take a couple days for an application with no issues, but a week for one with issues. You should get notified if there are issues and may be required to bring ID. I believe the SOS office is overwhelmed right now though.
You should take your receipt to the poll in case there is any questions, along with a couple forms of ID. There could be some GOP operatives there that might try to force you to use a provisional ballot (which would promptly get round-filed).

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Old 10-15-2008   #22
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I'm happy to say that my son who has learning disabilities, but you may refer to him as a retard, is registered to vote. Is that OK with you or should I tell him that Mr. C says he is a retard and can't vote.

Think about what you spew on the buzz.

I personally will not lower myself to your standards of name calling although when I hear someone using the word retard, I'd like to wring somebody's f*king neck.
Mr. C is not what is commonly referred to as a "compassionate conservative."

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Old 10-15-2008   #23
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I just got my full absentee ballot in the mail yesterday, so it begins.... But it is also weird because reading about the absentee I didn't take any steps to get one. Then I check my status on the county web page and it says I am a permanent mail in, not sure when I signed up for that. I was not aware it meant I could not go and vote on election day, glad I checked, sad I wont get out of work that day.
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Old 10-15-2008   #24
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If there are any GOP operatives at my polling place, I plan on heckling them hard! Nothing vulgar or threatening that could get me kicked out, but I plan on calling their manhood into question!
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Old 10-15-2008   #25
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yeah Lenin, Obama,and Che Guevara were real boneheads compared to Bush ,McCain,and Palin,did Caspermike drop you on your head several thousands times.
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Old 10-16-2008   #26
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I too did not sign up for permanant mail in status, but when I checked, was. When I moved in late 2007, I remember the conversation I had with my girlfriend, she wanted mail-in, I wanted to punish myself in long lines. Something smells fishy.
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Originally Posted by Livingston View Post
You got registered prior to the 6th, right?
Well I registered on the 6th. I was informed that that was the last day for registration? Either way if I'm not registered here then I'll just send in my absentee for IL, oh well.
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Old 10-25-2008   #28
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Colorado Voter Fraud

Colorado's Katherine Harris Threatens the '08 Election

By David Sirota
Denver Post's PoliticsWest, 10/25/08

My home state of Colorado, as anyone following the election campaign knows, is a major presidential battleground state. Both John McCain and Barack Obama have visited the state multiple times, including in recent/coming days. Though a new poll shows Obama taking a commanding 12-point lead, everyone expects both the presidential and U.S. Senate race here to be very close. That's why the Secretary of State Mike Coffman's (R) moves should worry everyone in Colorado and elsewhere. We've got our own Katherine Harris here - and a careful look at the news suggests he's moving to game this election in a state that could be the Florida of 2008.

I say "careful look" because Coffman's behavior - while outrageous and potentially election-throwing - has received coverage mostly in the back pages of local newspapers (and similarly little attention from the national media). But if you bother to dig down, you will see what I'm talking about - and it's scary.

A story on page 21 of the Rocky Mountain News briefly examines Coffman's efforts to invalidate roughly 5,000 registrations (depending on which source you ask). Here's the crux of what's going on:

"5,000 Coloradans whose voter status is in limbo because of controversial check box...The registration form asks for a driver's license or state ID number. If applicants don't have that, they're supposed to check a box and then put down at least the last four digits of their Social Security numbers. But thousands of people didn't check the box. According to a policy adopted last year by Secretary of State Mike Coffman, these applications are supposed to be listed as incomplete...National and local voting-rights organizations criticize Coffman's policy, saying it violates other federal laws. They say Coffman is unfairly putting up barriers for people who are eligible to vote and want him to change his policy."

The check box is "controversial" because you are asked to check it on the form if you don't "have" a driver's license or ID card. That's exactly how it is worded on the registration form, which you can see right here at this link:


So, here's the thing - what's the definition of "have?" I may have one at my house or in my car, but not with me at the very moment I am filling out the registration form. In that case, it would be logical - and, in fact, honest - for me to not check that box, while also putting down the last four digits of my social security number as my selected method of verifying my registration. Alternately, for whatever reason (privacy, etc.), I may simply feel more comfortable listing the last 4 digits of my social security number, rather than my entire driver's license number. So therefore, I might have listed my social security number and not checked the box.

And yet, if you made any of those logical choices, Coffman is attempting to use that choice to potentially invalidate your registration and prevent you from voting.

In case you think Coffman's move isn't extreme or motivated by partisanship, consider the fact that two big Republican counties are doing exactly the opposite of Coffman. As the Rocky Mountain News notes, "Election officials in Jefferson and Larimer counties also disagree with Coffman, saying they are weighing in on the side of the voter and won't disqualify people because of what they call a technicality." The Denver Post reports that Coffman reacted by sending a letter to other counties telling them they cannot follow suit, meaning two Republican counties are registering these voters, but others are not.

Thus, it isn't surprising that the Rocky Mountain News notes that "the largest number [of registrations affected by Coffman's edict] are Democrats, followed closely by unaffiliated voters," and "hundreds live in predominately minority neighborhoods in Denver and Aurora" (ie. traditionally Democratic constituencies).

Remember, Coffman is an up-and-coming Republican "star" - he's simultaneously Secretary of State and running to replace Colorado U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo (R). So he's not some nonpartisan election observer - as I said before, he's positioning himself to be Katherine Harris, who also went on to use her notoriety as an election thief to win a seat in Congress.

And Mike Coffman in particular understands that 5,000 Democratic votes is no small number in a place like Colorado. A 12,000 vote switch from Republican to Democrat in 2006 would have cost him his election to the Secretary of State's office. A 14,000 vote switch to Republican Senate candidate Pete Coors in 2004 would have defeated now-Sen. Ken Salazar (D).

To be sure, there are going to be a lot of election-day shenanigans all over the country, much of it in the shadows. But what we're seeing here in Colorado is a very public attempt to use Republican-controlled offices to potentially disenfranchise thousands and rig the election. Indeed, the Denver Post now reports that Coffman has asked his fellow Republican crony, state Attorney General John Suthers (R), to validate his moves with an official legal opinion so as to trip up potential pre- and post-election legal challenges to the disenfranchisement. This isn't a conspiracy theory - it's happening all right out in the open for everyone to see.

It all adds up to the kind of coordinated Republican scheme we've seen in the last two elections. And once again, that scheme could throw a national election.

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