Originally Posted by cayo 2
The problem with all this anti government rhetoric.... .Government is the only buffer to that unchecked power....We need GOOD governance... villifying [sp] government and denying the necessity and value of many of it's functions does not.
Feeling that government has no place in marriage is not anti government, feeling that our government could use modifications or that we do not have enough options is not villifying [sp] government and feeling that we should focus on issues more than individuals does not deny the necessity of anything.
Wanting more freedom and only regulating things that can really hurt us is not anarchist (boatmusher), it just seems logical to me.
So I hope you were not directing your coments my way. I want a limited government, as there are simply too many of us under one rule (multi-nationals yada yada) to expect basic personal social values to prevail. Most folks have an easier time screwing those they don't know and in ways that may have minimal consequences. So as there are more than 30 of us, we need a system.
I worry though that we have become so ingrained in the system as solution and as we look back many logical system/government solutions did more harm than the problems we were trying to solve. So we need to look at what needs to be governed rather than what can be governed. This is subtle crap way beyond the buzz and I should never have gone there to begin with.
In regards to bluesky's comments "I believe, however, that government offers benefits to married couples partly because marriage has historically been a great societal stabilizer, and is, therefore, valuable to government."
A couple of thoughts, remove government from marriage and marriage will still exist, in fact, it may even increase. Its value to government does not require the government to own it, it just needs to exist, I do not, as others do, think that the concept of marriage is at risk, it is just harder to attain and sustain in adisjointed society with too many
Secondly, regulations that provide social encouragement are a slippery slope towards a suspicious master plan. Sadly, perhaps, marriage is likely easier to attain and sustain in say a Taliban type system where women have very limited exposure to non family men, berkas (sp) and all. Should we encourage similar habits to protect marriage and keep society in line, because it works. Again, to a certain extent, limiting exposure will make one more content with what they have or can attain. Social encouragement and government must dance very carefully as to not damage any toes.