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Old 09-28-2006   #11
yetigonecrazy
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^ the latest post on 9news said that they sherriffs office confirmed there was assaults of a sexual nature that took place. my friend who lives here (but is from there) spoke on the phone with some of his friends this morning and i guess it was pretty fucked up shit that happened, no one is elaborating but...yeah. its a good thing this guy is dead. fuckin creep. and who says we dont need gun control in colorado...?
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Old 09-28-2006   #12
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We do. Use both hands.

Seriously, this guy could have done this with anything. Don't blame the gun. Not that I'm some NRA nut or anything (cue Chuck Heston sound byte), but almost everyone in these red states has some kind of gun. We're a gun society and that will never change, for better or worse.

Personally, I think the world would be a much better place without explosive powder propelled projectiles (say that ten times fast), but it's a genie in the bottle type thing. The technology cannot be unlearned, so if nutbars like that can get their hands on a gun -- and they always will if they look hard enough, regardless of what restrictions are in place -- then I'll have one, too, to put the blast on that bastard when need be.

And if I were a woman, you bet your ass I'd have a little piece in my purse.
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Old 09-28-2006   #13
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I agree with BSOE. I dont think the gun had much affect here except for the final outcome which could have been done with a kitchen knife. The threat of the bomb in the backpack seems to be what he used to maintain fear and control.
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Old 09-28-2006   #14
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"guns kill people, like spoons made michael moore fat"

this is not about guns as much as it is the fact that this is a broken world. I agree that in the absence of a gun it would have been a knife... or some other kind of weapon.

For me the drive to the Arkansas will never be the same. I cant imagine how those kids are going to go back to school.
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Old 09-28-2006   #15
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Old 09-28-2006   #16
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Too bad the guy died at the shoot out. That was too good for him.

Yea, I agree that guns are so plentiful now that it's probably too late to do gun control like they have in Europe, where perhaps 20 people die from guns in England, perhaps 10 in Germany, etc.

If the guy had only a knife, two football players could have finished this quickly.

Thank you NRA. You won.
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Old 09-29-2006   #17
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i agree

I agree with basil on both comments- too bad that pervert didn't get some ass-raping time in prison, and I really don't think he couldv'e done this without a gun (guns, plural, I guess it was). I hate to think what he wouldv'e done with a knife, but I bet it wouldn't have lasted too long if that's all he had.
I don't know about you guys but I can't stop thinking of the horrific nature of this crime- it's disgusting, terrifying, unbelievable. I feel terribly for the family of all those girls, and for the bailey community.
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Old 09-29-2006   #18
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^ im with you 100%. i almost threw up after reading this article:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...029806,00.html

this is a horrible, horrible thing that has been forced upon that poor small town. i think it hits us out here a lot closer because were from that small town place....the feeling it could happen anywhere.....its almost too bad this guy is dead, it would have been nice to let the people of bailey rape him with a golf club and then tear him limb from limb....i hope he rots in hell for the rest of eternity, fucking sick bastard.
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Old 09-29-2006   #19
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Re: i agree

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I agree with basil on both comments- too bad that pervert didn't get some ass-raping time in prison, and I really don't think he couldv'e done this without a gun (guns, plural, I guess it was). I hate to think what he wouldv'e done with a knife, but I bet it wouldn't have lasted too long if that's all he had.
I don't know about you guys but I can't stop thinking of the horrific nature of this crime- it's disgusting, terrifying, unbelievable. I feel terribly for the family of all those girls, and for the bailey community.

Yeh I wish he didn't have the easy way out as well.
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Old 09-29-2006   #20
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I'm horrified to have to send my kids into this type of world - but so grateful to be there with them. It is obvious this guy was troubled and I stand beside myself wondering why this tradedy unfolded. I can only come to a couple of conclusions. One, is that this guy wanted to end his misery and wanted to do it in a way that would make a statement to the society he blammed for his pathetic life. Or two, he was just plain evil. I'm not sure which one of these is easiest to accept. I guess neither is easy to accept because it doesn't appear we could do anything about either issue. The only comfort I can find, is that this type of traggedy won't happen to my kids because the odds are in my favor. What a horrible end of the odds to be on for Emily Keyes and for her friends and family and for Bailey, CO. Personally, I'm much more concerned about my kids making the right choices to not drink and drive and party to the extreme - the number one killer of teens. As for preventing this type of thing, well, it isn't possible to totally eliminate the possibility. One path, policing our society, takes us down a path not many want to follow and the other path of developing morals in society is a time long struggle that no society or affiliation has ever perfected. Welcome to the struggle of life and the pains of death. RIP
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