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Old 05-02-2011   #1
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Obama Finds Praise, Even From Republicans

Even former Vice President Dick Cheney declared, “The administration clearly deserves credit for the success of the operation.” And Donald J. Trump declared, “I want to personally congratulate President Obama.”

The argument that most potential Republican candidates have been making — that Mr. Obama is an indecisive leader, incapable of handling rapidly evolving events around the world — suddenly became more complicated.

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Old 05-02-2011   #2
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Yes, I give him the credit...for breaking his campaign promise to close gitmo and get rid of the JCOS. Joking aside, I also give him credit for his decision for an up close and personal kill vs. a bombing.

It seems Osama was living a better life than his followers which seems par for the course in world politics.

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more logic and more george carlin, please.

one thing is for sure: the plutocracy (who own the us government and the media) has an unlimited belief in the gullibility of americans. and rightly so. the american sheep believe every-single-thing that echoes out of their tv and radio speakers. "four legs good, two legs bad!" repeat it with me folks, "four legs good, two legs bad!" the pigs who own this country are fleecing the american flock of sheep into believing anything.

i can't stomach watching corporate media. i can't stand listening to any politician. all these two things offer are cleverness through euphemisms, manipulation through disinformation, and brute force -- not much intelligence, logic and wisdom happening these days in the halls of the usa empire. after all, "politics is the machinations of the stunted, damaged souls and third rate minds who hanker for power" i have a low tolerance for bullshit. so i find myself spending less time wallowing in the pit of toxic sewage called politics, and spending more time enjoying the more meaningful aspects of life. i also find myself revisiting the logic of george carlin.


a quote worth highlighting...

"now you probably noticed that i don't feel about that war the way we were told we were supposed to feel about that war; the way we were ordered and constructed by the united states government to feel about that war. you see, i tell ya, my mind doesn't work that way. i've got this real moron thing i do. it's called THINKING. and i'm not a very good american because i like to form my own opinions. i don't just roll over when i'm told to. sad to say most americans just roll over [knock] on command. not me. i have certain rules i live by. my first rule: i don't believe anything the government tells me. nothing. zero. and i don't take very seriously the media or the press in this country - who in the case of the persian gulf war were nothing more than unpaid employees of the department of defense, and who most of the time function as an unofficial public relations agency for the united states government." --- george carlin

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"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist." -George Carlin
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"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist." -George Carlin
I'm well on my way...
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"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist." -George Carlin
funny, because the correct quote and the context of the quote is in the video of him being interviewed.

"oh, they say if you scratch of cynic, you'll find a disappointed realist. and i would admit that somewhere underneath all of this [gesturing towards his chest] there is a little flicker of a flame of idealism that would love to see it all change. but it can't - it can't happen that way. incremental change, it just seems like the pile of shit is too deep. it just seems like there is too much to do. to do it all - to do everything you would need to clean up this act up of human, you know..."
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here is another gem...


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