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Old 08-25-2016   #21
 
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I think his campaign operates under the assumption we all suffer from amnesia. Just track his campaigns statements.and policies about Muslims to see evidence they think we are not paying attention.

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Old 08-26-2016   #22
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Trump without question lacks a filter between his brain and his mouth, and lacks the ability to recognize the problem with that.

Clinton indeed has a filter between brain and mouth. Would that the American public could hear her speak with the filter disabled a couple of times.

This is the most chaotic and worthless election Schutzie has seen in his lifetime; the choice is between a pompous gas bag and a career dishonest politician. Or, one can vote for one of the "also rans" who have zero hope of winning, in effect voting for one of the first two choices.

The media has done a great disservice to the public with their coverage of this election as well.

We are indeed lost.
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This election has given me a new level of faith.

That there is a God.

And God is a practical joker.
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Shutzie, agreed on Hillary. Would be pleasant and insightful to see her not speak legalese. Multi-decade politicians with ambitions to easily go that way as a form of CYA. (And that doesn't even begin to deal.with the quagmire of the Clinton Foundation and the pay to play mentality of WaDC). So many of us are tired of that part of the establishment. I wrote a longer reply above (imagine that) but deleted it. It boiled down to the very powerful subset of the"alt-right" that has no goal other than to burn it all down. I dislike the establishment and want change but there are going to be alot of truly innocent victims with that ideology of ashes.

BilloutWest, I would be healthier with that perspective. Hope its true. It blends well with the folks I described above as well. They are being underappreciated in this election but tend to be whip-smart and brilliant at the he internet. They are playing both sides against each other right now for the fun of it and because its the quickest way to destroy the current political environment. They are the hackers, forum trolls and meme builders who control the internet right now as well (we have a handful in this site). Sadly they are brilliantly using the white nationalist's racism and sexism to gain control of the RNC though most people familiar with them think they are anything but racist and old school sexist. Just not sure I am ready to see the Joker controlling the executive branch.

Hillary was accurate about Trump bringing racism and sexism mainstream but she isn't seeing the forest for the trees. It's a distraction and it's working.
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Interesting isn't it?
The alt right moniker dreamed up by the Democrats has gone mainstream in a matter of days.
It's exactly this kind of labeling that denigrates the entire discussion of politics.

Very few fall into the classification of "right wing" or "liberal" or whatever.
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"Alt-right"is a moniker created by the self-proclaimed alt-right, not the DNC. Its at least a couple years old. White nationalists have changed and also recognize the difficulty they face in public with that name, so they came up with a new label. It's marketing they created and most in that group are applauding her speech as it brought them more validity and mainstream recognition. There are plenty of resources that validate this explanation. The alt-right had no problem discussing their agenda openly.

I think labeling ideas and themes can be helpful and critical to constructive dialog. Putting actual individuals in limited boxes can be extremely problematic. It's the difference between talking about the Tea Party and it historical roots versus assuming every Tea Partier is the same.
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Shutzie, agreed on Hillary. Would be pleasant and insightful to see her not speak legalese. Multi-decade politicians with ambitions to easily go that way as a form of CYA. (And that doesn't even begin to deal.with the quagmire of the Clinton Foundation and the pay to play mentality of WaDC). So many of us are tired of that part of the establishment. I wrote a longer reply above (imagine that) but deleted it. It boiled down to the very powerful subset of the"alt-right" that has no goal other than to burn it all down. I dislike the establishment and want change but there are going to be alot of truly innocent victims with that ideology of ashes.

BilloutWest, I would be healthier with that perspective. Hope its true. It blends well with the folks I described above as well. They are being underappreciated in this election but tend to be whip-smart and brilliant at the he internet. They are playing both sides against each other right now for the fun of it and because its the quickest way to destroy the current political environment. They are the hackers, forum trolls and meme builders who control the internet right now as well (we have a handful in this site). Sadly they are brilliantly using the white nationalist's racism and sexism to gain control of the RNC though most people familiar with them think they are anything but racist and old school sexist. Just not sure I am ready to see the Joker controlling the executive branch.

Hillary was accurate about Trump bringing racism and sexism mainstream but she isn't seeing the forest for the trees. It's a distraction and it's working.
Sorry buddy, Hillary is a thief and a liar and entrenched yes man for wars over the years. As well as clearly lacking any sort of judgement based on the pay for play State scheme, The Clinton Foundation and the servers in the bathroom. By far the most militant of any candidate and up there with the Bush's. Your critique of Schutie's comments on how the media portrays Trump are beyond partisan! Killary Hitman has also had several recent victim's including Assange's attorney.

Specifically Trump did ask Russia "to release the missing emails" he was insinuating the fact the Russia already had them not for Russia to hack and release. Cleverly showing her utter lack of judgement which she actually pleaded to. I'll show you the quote if you'd like.
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Have you read the entire thread or sequence, C? If so, you will see I called out the pay for play, etc. She is a war hawk and most analysis will show her (and Obama) closer to the right (on foreign affairs) despite the name calling about her being a lefty. That is nothing new to people who keep abreast of the news.

Per the quotes, it's attached in this thread via me. I attached them because Shutzie summarized them with just as much spin as the media he condemned. Your quote is wrong as he said find, not release. Major difference and doesn't fit your synopsis at all. Here is the qoute:

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. Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said
Unless you can show my quotes are wrong I think my original criticisms about Shutzie post stands.

So you don't have to fill in the blanks...I, like many Americans, am not excited about either candidate, nor a registered member of any party. The accusation of partisan is rather rich and ironic coming from someone who unabashedly using the phrase "killary hitman". I never claimed to be completely unbiased and never will but that is not the same as accurately correcting misqoutes.
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I was referring to the quote were Hillary admits poor judgement. You're right on the Trump quote but it's obviously to me is was saidfascetiously.

The point is that the media is by far slanted in favor of the Democrat-always has been and always will be. Colleges, teaching in general and Journalism are the safe havens for liberals.

Too bad things have gotten so skewed and we can't go back to JFK and his stances-funny those would be labeled hard core right wing racism and bigotry!
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