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Old 08-21-2007   #21
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I agree certain breeds have more "kill potential" but I would say that's more a case of their physical ablities than differences in breeds' instincts. Physically, a chihuahua or a pekingese would have a very hard time killing or seriously maiming a person. Not so with the so called "killer breeds" which all tend to be large, solid dogs with strong jaws.
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Old 08-23-2007   #22
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True. But the instinct issue is still there. I got to researching this on the internet and found this:

The most horrifying example of the lack of breed predictability is the October 2000 death of a 6-week-old baby, which was killed by her family's Pomeranian dog. The average weight of a Pomeranian is about 4 pounds, and they are not thought of as a dangerous breed. Note, however, that they were bred to be watchdogs! The baby's uncle left the infant and the dog on a bed while the uncle prepared her bottle in the kitchen. Upon his return, the dog was mauling the baby, who died shortly afterwards. ("Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog," Los Angeles Times, Monday, October 9, 2000, Home Edition, Metro Section, Page B-5.)

DOG BITE LAW - Statistics about dog bites in the USA and elsewhere</STRONG>
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Old 08-25-2007   #23
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The comparison of Pit Bulls to Labs is way off in my opinion. The Pit Bulls I have seen seem to have an "attack gene" bread in to them. Not so with labs. Sure either dog can be brought up to be friendly or mean. But neglected or abused Pit Bull has a high likelyhood of being a killer. A neglected or abused lab, on the other hand, has a high likely hood of just barking alot and maybe biting a hand or leg.

A well cared for and socialized lab, on the otherhand is friendly to everyone. The same can be said for Pit Bulls - take Jiggy Dawg for instance (RIP) - awesome, friendly dawg. But Jiggy is a good example of what that breed has been bread to do - tear shit up. In Jiggy's case it was road cones since he had a great owner and got more attention and socialization than any dog should be lucky enough to get. In a less socialized pit, who knows what they would choose to tear up.

I was taking my dog for a walk and a another owner was throwing a frisbee for his pit bull. Obviously a well taken care of dog. Well, when the pit sees my dog he comes flying across the park and locks on to my dogs neck. I pretty much expected my dog to be dead. But the owner comes over and while he's trying to pry his pit's jaws open, explains to me that this is just what his dog does. After about ten minutes he gets his dog off and there's not a drop of blood. Now that's just a weird breed.
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Old 08-26-2007   #24
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Pit bulls were originally bred to be dog aggressive, not human aggressive. So yeah, an untrained pit bull might be a danger to other dogs. Properly trained, they can learn to direct that energy at other things, be it road cones or anything else.

Dogs tearing shit up, in most cases (and keep in mind this is just my experience and opinion) is due to lack of proper training or excersie. Dogs tear shit up when they are bored and need something to do... can you blame them?
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pitbulls, aren't all that agressive, it's how they're trained, and cared for. The 2 most violent dogs i've had experiences with are cocker spaniels, and dalmations. My best friend had his face torn apart by one, and i had to have all sorts of different vaccinations, and a hospital visit from being attacked by a "cocker spaniel" Now, it's not just my opinion. I've just happened to witness both of them. In new york, most of the "attacks" or bites are from dalmations, or spaniels. Other then, some gang banger who has his pit bull, or doberman, or shepard specifically for that reason. But, i'm talking about legitimate pet owners. Bichone` frisse's are also quite aggressive as well.

As for the whole training/excercise thing. When I had my border collie, i trained/exercised with him an hour and a half a day. Running, swimming, and even had him help my neighbor herd some cattle
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Praise justice, it looks like the sorry sack of shit is going to jail after his plea deal. I certainly hope he does at least 6 months of actual behind-bars-time. Maybe him and Paris can get together and cry it out. Anyways....the evidence must be over whelming for him to plead guilty to a conspiracy charge. Personally, I think the prosecutors are being too easy on him. Off to jail, Sick Vick. I also hope this pretty much kills his career. We'll see in time.

Tim, they took it easy on him, because he is a 'super star' in jail, he's gonna be a complete rockstar. An NFL coach in jail? He'll probably skate right by without a problem. atleast more so then me, or you would.
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My best friend had his face torn apart by one, and i had to have all sorts of different vaccinations, and a hospital visit from being attacked by a "cocker spaniel"
I dont want to make light of this but i guess i have grown up around big dogs and i just cant see how someone could get mauled by a cocker unless his feet and hands were tied. i mean you just kick the shit out of em. Just curious.
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Old 09-04-2007   #28
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I dont want to make light of this but i guess i have grown up around big dogs and i just cant see how someone could get mauled by a cocker unless his feet and hands were tied. i mean you just kick the shit out of em. Just curious.
I'll have you know that one of the worse dog bites I've received was from a Cocker Spaniel. They're one of the nastiest breeds you can use for Dog Juggling.




In all seriousness, my folks rescued a Cocker Spaniel a few years ago and he sucks. He bit me within the first week after they adopted him because I tried to put a leash on his collar. I had to take my shirt off and wrap it around his rapid little head to keep him from coming after me while I carried him shirtless, past all my neighbors, back to the house with a bloody right hand. Little fucker made me look like I just walked out of an episode of "When Pets Attack" meets "Cops".

I heard on the news awhile ago that Cocker Spaniels have the highest incidence of bites, relative to a breed. They're so inbred that I doubt they have a sense of their size relative to their victim. Just look at their googly eyes, fer chrissakes. Trust me, if it was some random dog that went after me without provocation, there would have been some Jason Elam shit going down at the dog park that day.
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I agree, 100%, cocker spaniels are extremely aggressive. And, i'll have you know that I have been attacked by a rabbit before!!! I had to have a rabies vaccination. The story about the rabbit is, when I was like 9 years old, i had a lop eared rabbit, and my brother used to tease it with the lawn mower(get it right up to its cage). So, one day, I let it out. and, started playing with it, and all. let him in the pen, he like stopped, and looked at me, started running towards me, and latched onto my calve, then my thigh, and managed to bounce up to my hand. had to get 5 stitches from him!
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ok, ok i give. thanks for the dog juggling though, lol
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