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Old 02-24-2009   #11
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sj, bushies plan was in the rebuild phase and working on the withdrawl phase.... he did agree to the 3 year pull out in iraq before leaving office.... don't give obama all the credit for the pull out please.

what would had happened if we declared war against afganhistan? which we should have done if i am understanding your post correctly.

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Well Obama owns it now. Yes the phase down was started. But Obama gets credit for the market today not W or Clinton. So he gets credit for what happens in Iraq under his watch. That's just how it works.

Not sure what you second question has to do with my answer about what I thought of W's decisions in Afghanistan. If he had of stayed focused on totally routing the Taliban and rebuilding Afghanistan his legacy would be a whole lot different. IMO

You are intelligent and argue well but I think results bear out that your ideology is flawed both International and fiscally. Again IMO. sj

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how is obama getting credit for the market today? why would you give him credit for market today? why shouldn't credit for the beginning phase of the withdrawl from iraq be giving to bush; it was on his watch after all?

what about alqaeda? which were the group that we initially had the reason to go with the "War on Terror"

what happens when the insurgents retreat to pakistan from afganhistan? invade pakistan?
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"In late April 1993, the United States asserted that President Hussein had attempted to have former President George H. W. Bush assassinated during a visit to Kuwait on April 16.[92] On June 16, as per order of then-President Clinton, a cruise missile was shot at the Iraq Intelligence Service building in downtown Baghdad. Clinton briefed President-elect George W. Bush in December 2000, expressing his regret that people he regarded as the world's two most dangerous individuals, including Hussein, were still alive and free. He warned Bush that Hussein will "cause you a world of problems."["
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President Clinton also told Bush that he "didn't have sex with that dictator." We know, however, that Rumsfeld did give Hussein a handjob back when he worked for Reagan.
Uh, I'm just gonna go find a cash machine.
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More like a huge chemical weapons laced rim job.

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