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Old 12-11-2006   #21
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From, Nov. 16th:
MYTH: The losses Republicans sufferend this election were no different than what you usually see in a President's sixth year in office.

REALITY: Redistricting minimized what might have been a truly historic shellacking.

The numbers alone do look like a typical midterm loss for the presidential party: 28 House seats, with 10 races still undecided. Republicans have clung to this math hard in recent days, with even Karl Rove pointing to electoral history to prove that things could have been worse. But Republicans spent most of the year boasting about how the redistricting of the past decade had made them all but bulletproof. Absent those new district lines, says the American Enterprise Institute's Norm Ornstein, "it could easily have been 45 or more." And there are other results that break with past patterns, Ornstein adds. Democrats did not lose a single seat — a feat the party had not accomplished since 1922. Even in the Republican sweep of 1994, the G.O.P. lost four of its open seats to Democrats. What's more, the wave swept all the way down the ballot — for instance, handing the New Hampshire House to the Democrats for the first time since 1922
More here: (Note the links that say 'DATA' on them- that's where something is based on something more than opinion)

'Facts' require some attempt at citation, Cletus. Just look at one of the local elections- Perlmutter's win was in a district tailor-made for O'Donnell and the GOP, and yet they still lost it. You may not want to admit that it's significant, but it is.

As for your other points -
1. I agree about John Kerry. Great service to our country & I'm sure he means well, but he does not resonate with most of the American public. Cannot help but stick his foot in his mouth time and again, and cannot seem to defend himself against smears. I'd probably consider someone like CO Gov. Bill Owens before a vote for Kerry...but the GOP is probably going to go with another neocon candidate that courts the religious right.

2. Gawd, the Al Gore stuff again. He sponsored the original bill funding the creation of the internet from a government. Never used the word 'invented':
You're just showing your ignorance when you cart this old horse out.

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Old 12-11-2006   #22
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I agree about the neocons and religious right. Better candidates would come from the more moderate side of the right wing.

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