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Old 10-17-2008   #101
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bull shit, why would anybody buy no jap hand gun or even a .22 hand gun at that.
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Old 10-17-2008   #102
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i havent fired any german rifles only a WW2 luger.
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Old 10-18-2008   #103
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I agree with gh. Not to put people down some love old round guns and if it works for you stick with it but for me I like the good old .45 hard to compete with that round or the high end auto's that use it. If I ever had to use a gun to protect myself or home, look back to my last post a benelli auto loader.. 00 buck..

The best guns out there are american made componets reworked and made true at a custom shop. Smith .45's and remmington 700 action rifles are hard to beat IMO..

The ruger is a great semi auto 22 that is the pistol that the first post is lookin for.. Cheap to buy and shoot. Reliable. Only bad part is that it is a pistol and has the limitations that come with it. Unless you have to have a pistol get a ruger 10/22.. Nice little autoloader rifle and will shoot that round way better than the pistol.
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Old 10-18-2008   #104
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GH Explain why one hand gun is more or less dangerous than another. without proper training any gun can de deadly. quit bitching about which color is brighter.
Did you even read the posts? I simply stated that I dont believe revolvers are any safer than auto's. In fact any well made gun is a safe as the next. People are unsafe, guns arent.
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Old 10-18-2008   #105
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To profess my ignorance, I always thought a revolver was safer than a semi-auto. At least that's what I was taught (by a US Army Ranger). Something about a revolver never firing without the hammer first being pulled back, so no way to fire it just by dropping it. Whereas a semi-auto, assuming a round is chambered, could discharge when dropped.

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dont drop it
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Old 10-18-2008   #107
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To profess my ignorance, I always thought a revolver was safer than a semi-auto. At least that's what I was taught (by a US Army Ranger). Something about a revolver never firing without the hammer first being pulled back, so no way to fire it just by dropping it. Whereas a semi-auto, assuming a round is chambered, could discharge when dropped.

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It totally depends on design of the gun. I have a rugar P 91 semi auto that does not have a hammer you can pull back. The trigger pulls the hammer back and releases it. It's called a double action. No safety on the gun as it can not be fired unless you pull the trigger. (rule number one.....never put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot what your aiming or pointing at.)
You can keep one in the chamber or not......but the results are the same. Pull the trigger and the hammer goes back and foward. I would consider this gun as safe as a revolver.

The draw back is it has a long and hard trigger pull, thus making it not as accurate unless you get real use to it and take your time between rounds.

I also have an XD 40 that is hammerless and has both trigger and grip lock safeties. It's considered one of the safest and most accurate hand guns you can buy. The trigger pull is super smooth, break down and cleaning is really simple, and it locks open when you shoot your last round, so you can change magazines and close it with a thumb lever, thus chambering a round, and being ready to continue shooting.

Revolvers can be either single or double action, or a combo of both. Some you have to manually cock the hammer each time you shoot. Some you can pull the trigger to both cock and shoot it. Some will let you cock it and then pull the trigger.....or just pull the trigger to both cock and shoot it.

I have a S&W Airweight 38 SP. that is both single and double action. The difference is when it is cocked the trigger pull is hardly nothing......some would call it close to being a hair trigger. Once again........never put your finger on the trigger.......especially a pistol in single action mode......unless you are ready to shoot.

Hope this helps to explain it some.
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Old 10-19-2008   #108
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Well thanks for all of the advice. I have decided that the Ruger 10/22 looks like what I am interested in. The Last thing of advice I am interested in is...would I want to get a scope or not?
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Old 10-19-2008   #109
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With a scope.....you get what you pay for. If your heart is set on getting one, go to several gun stores and look through a bunch of different ones. A great scope can easily cost more than the gun. A cheap scope is hard to keep adjusted, fogs up easily, and/or is hard to find the target while trying to position your eye correctly in front of it. You might even look at finding a used one. Gun stores and pawn shops are a great place to look for them.

Personally..... I like open sites. Once properly sited, you can only blame yourself if you don't hit the target. Then again, I don't hunt anymore so most of my shooting is close range target shooting. Scopes are made for long distance (and poor eyesite).

Great choice you have made freexbiker. I own several Rugers. They have good resale value and the workmanship is second to none. You'll have nothing but fun with your new gun.
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Old 10-19-2008   #110
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The 10/22 is great you are going to love it. I would say go out and get see through scope rings. This will let you use your iron sights or a scope. The ones that I would say to look at are made by weaverYou can pich them up any were and you dont need a rail to mount it to the 10/22. Happy shooting
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