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Old 10-03-2007   #1
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BUSH? FOR AMERICA OR AGAINST?

SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.

PRESIDENT BUSH VETOES RENEWAL OF CHIDLREN'S HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM?

THIS PRETTY MUCH MEANS HE CARES LESS ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WILL RUN THIS COUNTRY ONE DAY AND MORE ABOUT THE MONEY WE CAN SPEND IN IRAQ
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Old 10-03-2007   #2
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Can't vote until you're 18 i.e. you don't matter until you're old enough to make a hanging chad.
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Old 10-03-2007   #3
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seriously

seriously he wants more and more money for iraq. im not against being in iraq because good idea to get rid before they try more attacks everywhere!

but to veto a bill that can help a mojority of the population. is he for or against helping the actual citizens of America?

seems like we need to impeach the man before he loses his mind!
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Old 10-03-2007   #4
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I agree Bush is an idiot, his spending and continued proliferation in Iraq is both sad and infuriating. However, Iraq was not responsible for the attacks here in the US. Osama and his boys are an independent entity that exists outside government control. Even if we try to impeach him it will cost millions if not billions of dollars. We will probably just have to suck it up and take responsibilities for what took place three years ago, and look forward to change hopefully whoever we get in 08 is better. You never know the next person could be worse.
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Old 10-03-2007   #5
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We need definitions of "for" and also "America"

Sure, he's "for" America. But his America is a pretty small slice of the overall apple pie that I think of when I think of my country. Well, not sure it was ever mine. I'm not that crazy Irishman from Braveheart...

This administration is freefalling. It's going to take more down with it, unfortunately. Too bad the democratically elected, co-equal Democrat-controlled congress has zero balls. Zero.

This country is all but a monarchy now.
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Old 10-03-2007   #6
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Very nice Tool quote you have there helio.....LOVE IT!
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Old 10-03-2007   #7
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Is there a Bush bash in there somewhere?
That's the price of admission.
I guess you could defend him, too, but really, the three people who would are busy at work in the White House.
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Old 10-03-2007   #8
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Yea, I think heliodorus is right on: the problem is Bush has a funny perspective of America. He grew up so privileged.

It's funny how many people still think we invaded Iraq to fight terrorism. Give credit to the Bush PR people--they know how to deceive. I guess they tapped into the desire to fight someone after 9/11. Too bad that Iraq has become a great recruiting tool for Al-Qaeda.
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Old 10-03-2007   #9
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bush is for three things: what's good for his family, what's good for the wealthy, and what's good for the neocon movement. if those things coincide with what's good for america, then that's icing on the cake for him and the admin. unfortunately, the quagmire that we're in now isn't good for anyone, especially not iraq and america, but we're there until we leave, which ain't gonna be soon, and everything including the child healthcare bill suffers as a result.

what's funny about the white house's reasoning behind the veto is they say it benefits the middle class too much. did anyone notice how this is exactly opposite of the tax cuts that the admin enacted right after they took office? the huge protest (and it was a correct one) was that they benefited the wealthy while leaving the poor and middle class behind. now that the poor and even middle class stand to gain, they're fucked again. amazing. and he has no qualms about it. what an amazing stunt.

and whichever one of you said something about their PR, you're spot on. i'm of the opinion that they have a lot of the white house and VP office budget devoted to PR staff for spin control. they're the best at it that i've ever seen.

and mike how can you say that being in iraq is a good thing when we're there on a lie? no proof for any of the reasons given for going to war has ever been produced. the war was prosecuted on a lie, and a lot of americans and a lot more iraqis have died because of it.
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Old 10-03-2007   #10
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here'a a list of why its a good idea to be iraq
heres a list of muslim terrorist groups who think its alright to commit jihad!

The International Islamic Front for the Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders: Osama bin Laden's organization;
Laskar Jihad: responsible for the murder of more than 10,000 Christians in Indonesia;
Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami: a leading cause of violence in Kashmir;
Palestinian Islamic Jihad: the most vicious anti-Israel terrorist group of them all;
Egyptian Islamic Jihad: killed Anwar El-Sadat in 1981, many others since, and
Yemeni Islamic Jihad:

the war was originally brought to America. if America didn't stand up right than, i personally think there would be alot more terrorists attacks happening right here in the US. like a child you say no immediately with a firm response the chance of them doing it again is less. but if you brush it off it will happen again. yes AMERICAN and iraqis are dieing but so are others by alqaeda.


if you are not a alqaeda muslim than you are an infidel and there for can have jihad commited against you.

and for some osama bin laden homo to call all others infidels and call for your and my death is bullshit somebody has to do something. was it a good idea to stand up to hitler and the nazis? this is why its a good idea to stand up against the "muslims that think its alright to commit jihad" because its not right for anybody to beable to judge and decide the fate of others.

personally i believe the reason in it self is sufficient!

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