here'a a list of why its a good idea to be iraq
heres a list of muslim terrorist groups who think its alright to commet jihad!
The International Islamic Front for the Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders: Osama bin Laden's organization; Laskar Jihad: responsible for the murder of more than 10,000 Christians in Indonesia; Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami: a leading cause of violence in Kashmir; Palestinian Islamic Jihad: the most vicious anti-Israel terrorist group of them all; Egyptian Islamic Jihad: killed Anwar El-Sadat in 1981, many others since, and Yemeni Islamic Jihad:
the war was originally brought to America. if America didn't stand up right than, i personally think there would be alot more terrorists attacks happening right here in the US. like a child you say no immediately with a firm response the chance of them doing it again is less. but if you brush it off it will happen again. yes AMERICAN and iraqis are dieing but so are others by alqaeda.
if you are not a alqaeda muslim than you are an infidel and there for can have jihad commited against you.
and for some osama bin laden homo to call all others infidels and call for your and my death is bullshit somebody has to do something. was it a good idea to stand up to hitler and the nazis? this is why its a good idea to stand up against the "muslims that think its alright to commit jihad" because its not right for anybody to beable to judge and decide the fate of others.
it's funny that you link osama bin laden and al qaeda to iraq, because there was never a connection between the two. it's even been acknowledged that the current faction of al qaeda in iraq is not connected to the other al qaeda. they're completely different. therefore, we have no basis to be in iraq. the original basis was a lie. 'nuf said.
the damage caused by bush's war over the last 4 years has fueled more generations of terrorists other than al qaeda than you could ever imagine. are we going to go after them too?
how are osama and alqeada and iraq linked. he may not be sitting in iraq but he is invovled in the alqeada!
so you think its alright to commit jihad?
whats happening in bahgdad? i guess alqeada isn't there huh? and he doesn't influence the rest of them?
did you read my post above at all? it's well documented that osama's al qaeda and the al qaeda faction in iraq are not connected, or if they are connected, they are connected because we invaded iraq. it's also well documented that osama never contacted hussein. there never was a connection between iraq and 9/11, never were any WMD's, etc., so we're there for a lie, and we need to get the hell out before more lives are lost just because bush is a megalomaniac.
no i don't think it's alright to commit terrorist acts. what i do think is right is to pursue those who commit those acts, not those who are purported to be connected to the acts, but in reality are a diversion to get the country's attention focused on the middle east in order to foster a long term presence in the region.
when you find yourself with some spare time, check out some stuff about the new american century located here - Welcome to the Project for the New American Century. a lot of the folks in the early bush admin (and some who are still there) are responsible for this doctrine that is currently being played out in the middle east right now. pretty crazy stuff that i thought could never happen, but is quickly becoming reality. that's what neocons do for you. that and deny needy children insurance.
After we got into Iraq, yea, every extremist Islamic tried to get in and say they are the main ones causing havoc. Does anyone really think we are killing more extremists than we are creating by being in Iraq?
Good thing the US doesn't have any extremists themselves who take a simplistic view of the world.
If we are the morale compass and Iraq needs us what about places like Sudan or even Myanmar? Lets be honest the only reasons we are there is oil and W's ignorance. Added to which if we are supposed to squash any group that terrorizes the US why haven't we gone in and blown the likes of the McVeigh's, Nichols's and Kazinski's(Oklahoma City Bombers/Unibomber). A great many people don't want us in Iraq, Americans and Iraqis alike, we have enough problems right here to fix. It is probably safer to walk the streets of Baghdad than Los Angeles in today's world. So before we start cleaning up other peoples mess, maybe we should clean up our own back yard.
BAGHDAD - The mayor of the religiously mixed town of Iskandariyah was killed along with four of his guards in a roadside bomb attack Thursday, police said
Hamza's convoy was targeted by the blast, which also wounded a fifth guard, police said.
In Baghdad, a car bomb exploded near people on line at a gas station, killing four civilians and wounding eight others, police said.
The device had been placed in a car parked about 110 yards from the station in the southeastern Baghdad area of Zafaraniyah, according to a police officer who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.
The attack came a day after an ambush with bombs and gunfire left Poland's ambassador pinned inside a burning vehicle before he was pulled to safety and airlifted in a rescue mission by the embattled security firm Blackwater USA. At least three people were killed, including a Polish bodyguard.
Wednesday's apparently well-planned attack in one of Baghdad's most secure neighborhoods — raised questions about whether Poland had been targeted for its contributions to the U.S.-led military force in Iraq. Poland's prime minister, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, said his nation would not retreat "in the face of terrorists."
FROM ASSOCIATED PRESS
how do you deal with problems you take care of them not ignore them. AND IF YOU THINK BAGHDAD IS SAFER THAN ANYWHERE IN THE US WHY DON'T YOU JOIN THE MILITARY?
"no i don't think it's alright to commit terrorist acts. what i do think is right is to pursue those who commit those acts, not those who are purported to be connected to the acts, but in reality are a diversion to get the country's attention focused on the middle east in order to foster a long term presence in the region."
so why shouldn't we had gone to iraq? you just contradicted yourself.
and if you ever thought it was safer to walk down a street in Baghdad than LA, you should join the military.
"BAGHDAD - The mayor of the religiously mixed town of Iskandariyah was killed along with four of his guards in a roadside bomb attack Thursday, police said.
In Baghdad, a car bomb exploded near people on line at a gas station, killing four civilians and wounding eight others, police said.
from associated press 10-04-07
and what happened yesterday?
Wednesday's apparently well-planned attack in one of Baghdad's most secure neighborhoods — raised questions about whether Poland had been targeted for its contributions to the U.S.-led military force in Iraq. Poland's prime minister, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, said his nation would not retreat "in the face of terrorists."
The Iraqi foreign ministry denounced the attack, calling it a cowardly "criminal assassination attempt" aimed at "damaging the strong relations between Iraq and Poland."
The diplomatic convoy was hit by three bombs before attackers opened fire in the Shiite-controlled Karradah district. Polish guards returned fire as the injured ambassador, Gen. Edward Pietrzyk, was pulled from his burning vehicle. At least 10 people, including four Polish security agents, were wounded.
U.S. Embassy officials dispatched Blackwater helicopters to evacuate the ambassador and others. Blackwater was not involved in protecting the Polish convoy.
Pietrzyk, who was commander of ground forces in Poland before taking the ambassador post in April, suffered minor burns over 20 percent of his body, including his head and right arm and leg, said Polish Charge d'Affaires Waldemar Figaj.
"They were waiting for us," from associated press10-04-07
there are big events happening almost everyday.
Last edited by caspermike; 10-04-2007 at 03:18 PM.
I have no interest in joining the military or going to Baghdad. However if you just do a plain old google search you will see the stats that show the info. Last year Iraq had a violent death rate of about 59/100,000. The US leader was New Orleans at 67/100,000. So living in the city here in the US is no picnic, you have just as good a chance of getting killed here as there. So nenernenernener.
I have no interest in joining the military or going to Baghdad. However if you just do a plain old google search you will see the stats that show the info. Last year Iraq had a violent death rate of about 59/100,000. The US leader was New Orleans at 67/100,000. So living in the city here in the US is no picnic, you have just as good a chance of getting killed here as there. So nenernenernener.
are these stats creditable because i know for a fact that more than 59 people have dies in iraq in one year. and mixing stats like that creates an illusion 26,000,000 people in iraq makes 15,340 deaths,
compared to the entire state of louisiana which has 4,000,000 which makes a mere 2,680 deaths, you might want to look your figures over
Last edited by caspermike; 10-04-2007 at 03:50 PM.
this is the last time i'm going to debate you on this topic because you just don't get it. long story short, we shouldn't be there in the first place. now let's get the fuck out while we can. the shit you posted above wouldn't be happening if we wouldn't have gone over there and fucked the place up.
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